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Obama won because McCain most of what McCain said were lies.
Comment by Kevin - September 26, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Obama seems to want to talk out the issues with other countries rather then go to war. That what I’m looking for.
Comment by Aaron Smith - September 26, 2008 at 11:10 pm
As someone who voted Republican in the primaries, I have to say that I’m leaning to Obama. I think that both candidates are decent people, but I am tired of seeing the Republican party being reduced to a bunch of gun toting cowboys threatening war. There are so many other issues at hand and we can’t spend the next 4-8yrs funneling money to wars all around the world.
Comment by Jim Jones - September 26, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Clearly Sen. Obama thinks more clearly, is more level headed and has more of a worlds view than Sen McCain. It’s time for America to vote for the smartest person running, unlike the last two presidential elections.
Comment by Mark Mazzoli - September 26, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Obama won the economic section, McCain won the foreign policy section so I see it as a tie. Best moment was Obama talking about his father’s excitement in coming to America from Kenya and how Obama wants to restore world opinion in the US as a ’shining beacon’.
Comment by RBE - September 26, 2008 at 11:12 pm
McCain was far more in the know about foreign affairs. Obama had to say he agreed with McCain numerous times….I wonder why that would be.
Comment by Brent - September 26, 2008 at 11:12 pm
John McCain showed contempt for Barack Obama, lecturing him repeatedly. Hunched over like a bitter old man, McCain never explained why we should sign up for another four years of failed economic and foreign policies.
Barack Obama was smart and tough. And Presidential.
Comment by John, New York - September 26, 2008 at 11:13 pm
McCain had a nasty edge to him that, I think, will hurt him. This was an opportunity to get passed the nastiness and McCain chose not to.
Comment by Ann - September 26, 2008 at 11:13 pm
McCain was snide and made no sense at times. He repeated vague phrases and didn’t provide accurate details. The details he did provide were misleading and/or untruthful.
Comment by mindful - September 26, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Tonights debate was not about foreign policy but war policy. It seems that foreign world for the USA people means only countries in conflict with. They did not talked about any other countries rather tahn the ones USA is in war or afraid of war with. What about the rest of Europe, Asia, Latin America???
Comment by Miguel Rodriguez - September 26, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Omaba just doesn’t understand.
Comment by John - September 26, 2008 at 11:15 pm
On substance, Obama was a slight winner.
On style, Obama was the clear winner. He was more presidential, taller, had better eye contact, and wasn’t lecturing or condecending the way McCain was. Those creepy McCain smiles and chuckles were a turn-off to the audience.
Comment by thegold - September 26, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Are you liberals kidding me? What debate were you watching? I think McCain handled Obama with kid gloves in a lot of instances, and yet still schooled him most of the night.
Comment by Brent - September 26, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Obama gets it. Very presidential. We need a leader in the White House again!
Comment by David - September 26, 2008 at 11:17 pm
McCain didn’t answer questions. He never mention any policy. All he did was to tell stories. Are we electing a story-teller in chief?
Comment by carl - September 26, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Obama clearly wins on content and leadership skills where McCain shows a total lack thereof (he has not revealed one substantial plan) and always cheaply falls back on his previous century war history which has no ground for a future president.
Obviously Obama is valued by the intelligent and McCain gets the support from the lower IQ. Unfortunately in this country there is too much of the latter category - this explains once again the need for investment in education.
2 highlights: Obama’s comment on McCain not knowing that Spain is a NATO ally and McCain’s comparison of corporate tax rates with Ireland, opening up for the obvious loopholes.
Comment by Reender - September 26, 2008 at 11:17 pm
McCain seemed cold and distant. He wouldn’t even look at Obama. It was like a child getting scolded. And if McCain is coming across party lines… why would he not see ANY of Obama’s points as bearing some validity. Just seems like more of the same bullheaded attitude. Good job Obama. And I am not even a Democrat.
Comment by Nicholas - September 26, 2008 at 11:17 pm
McCain is more presidential. He is more decisive. His national security views are based on knowledge and experience and are, therefore, more rational. He wins this debate.
Comment by B.H. Franklin - September 26, 2008 at 11:18 pm
How disgraceful to not know who you honor. Obama you should not wear a bracelet of an “unknown” soldier.
Comment by Anonymous Veteran - September 26, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Obama perfected the deer-in-headlights look . . . must be the good influence of Pelosi’s Botox ju-ju. What an inarticulate know-nothing the Democrats have put up . . . Your one poster above could not get the Sybil part.
Comment by Grandma - September 26, 2008 at 11:18 pm
I trust John McCain to keep us safer, and has a fuller appreciation of the risks and threats of the world. As ex-military, he would be among the most cautious in taking military action, and the most decisive should that be necessary. With Senator Obama, my fear is that our enemies might conclude he is hesitant and lacking the will to act with force if necessary…and is dangerous to us all
Comment by Steven Korn - September 26, 2008 at 11:19 pm
think Obama came out preachy, similar to a law professor or academic. also found Obama made several mistakes in foreign policy including Dr. Kissinger’s comments. think Obama would be “trigger-prone” in volatile areas such as Pakistan. Although dialogue is important, do not believe Obama’s position of a U.S. President sitting down with the President of such a state as Iran does any good, it creates more credence to a state of insurrgent proliferation.
on questions of the current fiscal crisis and future spending constraints, i think neither candidate answered the quesstions forthrightly as to what other domestic or international needs we would need to constrain in terms of budgetary constraints. while i applaud Sen. McCain’s efforts at fiscal reform, both candidates will need to cha
Comment by Trish - September 26, 2008 at 11:19 pm
McCain won the debate and gave Obama a history lesson tonight. Experience over youth!
Comment by Laura - September 26, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Obama won, he was Presidential and tried to respect McCain. McCain on the other hand acted like a bitter old man
Comment by Wanda - September 26, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Brent - you are blind and deaf. O’Bama dusted McCain on all issues. McCain can talk the talk but his record is much louder than his lies. OBama is so much more intelligent, truthful, knowledgeable and insightful by a very long shot. Wishful thinking though.
Comment by RW - September 26, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Obama won. McCain kept attempting to make up for his weak positions by alleging thru
condescending remarks
that “Mr. Obama just doesn’t
understand”.
Comment by Bill Allen - September 26, 2008 at 11:20 pm
It was a good debate. Obama came out swinging with a rehearsed speech. He did not answer the question. I think that was a mistake he never recovered from. McCain met this challenge and then put Obama on defense on just about every question.
Don’t get me wrong, Obama did a good job. McCain did better, never coming close to losing his cool, interrupting during Obama’s comments, or being less than gracious. Many times, Obama had to agree with McCain’s comments, only to attack him and often moving away from the topic. McCain would then bring Obama back to the key issue, and hammer home his point again.
The next debate between them will be interesting indeed.
Comment by Randy - September 26, 2008 at 11:20 pm
McCain definitely won. In the fact check afterward the anchor showed that in the dispute over Kissinger’s position McCain was right, Obama was wrong. McCain showed tonight just how much experience he has, Obama could not give any examples from his past because he is so inexperienced.
Comment by Michelle - September 26, 2008 at 11:21 pm
McCain has more experience. He has a more eloquent/straight-talk style. Do you really want to vote in the democratic ticket and lead America down the socialist path? Go McCain/Palin! Story-telling is great! Keep healthcare decisions with the family. Spending restraint, 5000 back to each taxpayer and increased 7500 child tax credit - excellent.
Comment by Melissa - September 26, 2008 at 11:21 pm
I am a Democrat and even I can see the falsehoods in Obama’s rhetoric…The untrustworthy lawyer is coming out…I will be voting for McCain!
Comment by Joseph Stanley - September 26, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Obama is CLEARLY not ready and was OUTCLASSED. Sen. McCain’s words have substance while Obama is and remains to be all smokescreens. Unfortunately as a Democrat I am embarrassed to say that Obama is not ready and is Clearly not the best candidate.
Comment by RS, New York - September 26, 2008 at 11:22 pm
McCain won the debate. He knows what he’s talking about and has a better plan for our country.
Comment by Nick - September 26, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Obama provide steps/actions, McCain spent more time finding fault with Obama;
McCain = Impatient, disrespect for time and Jim; McCain = historic stories.
Obama = agreed on things and wanted a real debate on approach differences; Obama = change.
Comment by rg96 - September 26, 2008 at 11:24 pm
It was close, and there were no knockouts, but Obama won. McCain certainly knows his history, but Obama articulated a clearer vision of tomorrow. McCain’s condescending comments really didn’t score any points. Felt like a lecture from grandpa.
Comment by Tom from Durham, NH - September 26, 2008 at 11:24 pm
I saw an angry, out-of-control wannabe President who incredibly stated that he is “not opposed to nuclear waste.” Those were Obama’s exact words, spoken in anger after he tried repeatedly to interrupt and shout above McCain, who was merely trying to speak after being acknowledged by the moderator. I wasn’t able to tune into the debate until that disgusting moment, which made me wonder if Obama ever managed to pass beyond adolescence. Or maybe he just never learned that it is not polite to interrupt. Obama was obviously in over his head in debating this “70 something” American hero whose knowledge and experience obviously surpass that of the racist, ani-American poseur with a very questionable background of criminal associations.
Comment by Mary, Democrat (Well, Used To Be!) - September 26, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Well, there are alot of democrats that have racial prejudices that are clouding their judgment. OBama is the better candidate by far, if you don’t agree you are a racist.
Comment by Rachel - September 26, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Pork futures - Sell Signal !
Go McCain
Comment by Anonymous Taxpayer - September 26, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Obama came out better because he spoke clearly and coherently on every issue. It is unfortunate, however, that his instinctive, statesmanlike reach for points of consensus — which would be the fundamental building blocks of policy across dissenting sides — will be seen as “agreeing” with McCain’s policies in general. All he is correctly seeking is the point of commonality that conflicting sides can build on. This style, which will serve him extremely well as a world leader, doesn’t help him in a debate.
Comment by Susan - September 26, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Obama was malicious, unpresidential, deceitful, and clearly not very educated.
Comment by Jason - September 26, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I would like to have a president who stands for what he believes…and has a resume to prove it. VOTE MCCAIN!
Comment by Abi - September 26, 2008 at 11:27 pm
As I hear Obama, I thought I was listening to an AUDIOBOOK. Can’t he say anything that is based on experience?
Comment by Wendy - September 26, 2008 at 11:28 pm
These debates are merely soundbites for television and really shouldn’t matter. There’s more to the Presidency than giving speeches.
Comment by Dave - September 26, 2008 at 11:28 pm
RW, about the only thing Obama could say was that he didn’t agree with the war. Uhmmm…He may have sang a different tune if he actually had a REAL decision to make at the time. He didn’t. Others made decisions based on information they trusted at the time and that Obama was likely not aware of as he was not a senator. You are clearly as naive as he.
Comment by Brent - September 26, 2008 at 11:28 pm
It’s a clear fundamental economic law. You cut spending at the expense of economic growth. YOu can’t have no spending and still try to have a growing economy. Go Obama. Cutting spending is only good for the very short term until you find your GDP going down. Inflation rising and consequently raising of taxes to cover of for the lost income to the government. McCain, those are old school policies. Still living with the classical economic policies which say let the market make its own rules when we have just still Wall Street fall as a result of that!
Comment by Maryanne - September 26, 2008 at 11:30 pm
What debate were you guys watching? I saw McCain as the level-headed pragmatist who would do a lot more to keep us out of war (remember Obama’s previous comments about attacking Pakistan?). He clearly gave Obama a lesson in foreign policy and national security tonight. As for thinking more clearly, McCain not only has command of the important facts, but also the experience that Obama sorely lacks to put those facts in perspective.
Comment by Virginia - September 26, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Obama makes me proud
Comment by jackie - September 26, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Obama is a clear winner. Many times he said “I agree” indicates that he is a person more likely to build consensus among different groups. We need a leader who can unite powers around the world to excel. We do not need a single minded leader like Bush. McCain bragged a lot about his past experiences. However, too much emphasis on past experience rendered him similar to what has been done in by Bush administration. We do not need another leader like Bush.
Comment by Sean - September 26, 2008 at 11:32 pm
more OBAMA “pixie dust”, he looked at times like a deer in headlights trying not to look like a frustrated lawyer
—remember RESCO, GARDEN KICKBACKS, BILL AYERS etc,etc.,etc.
Comment by mike - September 26, 2008 at 11:32 pm
mcCain was preachy and spent most of the time talking about how experienced he was and how ‘wrong’ Obama was. Too bad his ‘tactic and strategies’ for the debate made him look old, mean spirited, caught in the past. I think Obama took the risk to actually put forth some ideas, occasionally agree with mccain and then also try point out mccains obvious mistakes and falsehoods. Perhaps he should take the letter that Ike didn’t really write and resign himself.
Comment by peg - September 26, 2008 at 11:33 pm
I had to admit: Obama made me real nervous tonight. McCain was presidential. Obama spoke as a lawyer.
Comment by lefty - September 26, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Obama clearly won based on his answering of the questions and providing specific details. McCain tried to be cute and use the same old code language that only appeals to people in his party that are of his generation. He also tried to play down Obama’s experience which is not working as well as the Republicans thought it would. McCain evidently does not understand the difference between strategy and tactics since he made the tactical mistake of using the wrong attack methodology and strategically underestimated his opponent.
Comment by PB - September 26, 2008 at 11:34 pm
It is good that Obama is a fair orator since he can’t run on his record.
Sadly Obama’s powers of oration failed him this evening. He really just doesn’t get it, and that is rather frightening given he just might be our next President.
Comment by Ray - September 26, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Obama is the clear winner. More presidential, more knowledgable and much much less of the pathologis liar McCain has become. I respected McCain, but his tricks and games have changed my mind.
Comment by Ali - September 26, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Obama won against a smug politician, while showing respect at the same time. How can McCain say Obama doesn’t have the experience while nominating Palin as his running mate, one breath from the White House? Bad move. And as an ex-military, I would have to say the troops would rather be home then dead. You can’t win at war, it is a lie we don’t believe any more.
Comment by Ken - September 26, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Obama is the clear winner of tonight’s debate. Universal Healthcare does NOT take away any family’s right to decide what doctor to see or what treatments options to take advantage of. THAT only happens NOW under the current privatized HMO/PPO system. Giving access to healthcare to all citizens of this country is something that businesses as well as individuals will benefit from. Maybe if we were all healthier we would be able to see that Obama is the right choice for this country. McCain may have good intentions, and I believe that both candidates do, but Obama has the best plan domestically as well as in issues related to foreign affairs. As the sister and daughter of veterans, I prefer a President that will exhaust all other avenues before sending troops. They’re not just numbers to me.
Comment by Janelle - September 26, 2008 at 11:36 pm
My favorite moment was when McCain suggested that Obama’s position on Pakistan was imprudent. Obama then reminded him that he would only do so if Bin Laden were in his sights and the Pakistanis would not help. He then pointed out to McCain the imprudence of his little “Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb, Bomb Iran” song. That was awesome!!
Comment by Julie - September 26, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Obama is all talk. That’s why he love to debate. I bet he wishes that all he has to do is debate, debate, debate when he becomes president. He is not used to working.
Comment by Wendy - September 26, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Senator McCain Command experience and ideas make him my choice. He showed guts and tenacity that made him the clear leader in this debate with Obama even agreeing a number of times with McCain’s Leading decisions. No question on who was right the important issues. John McCain
Comment by Oran - September 26, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Sean, maybe Obama said he agreed with McCain because he was right. Maybe McCain never said he agreed with Obama because he was wrong. Your assumptions about consensus and ignorant. Sorry.
Comment by Brent - September 26, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Rachel: please look in the mirror….your racism saddens me.
Comment by Joseph - September 26, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Obama cool, level headed, able to look at and engage with McCain, poised. Handled issues well, did not lget visibly angry or get defensive. McCain did not look at Obama, always en garde, testy . . .and worst of all, regularly condescending . .”you don’t understand” =”respect mah authoritah.” Which is so “20th century dictator” and so Bush Cheney Rumsfeld. Even if some score it a tie on points, Obama left debate as a peer with McCain. Since he is already moving strongly up in polls, I think debate will help solidify lead. We will see.
Comment by jhh - September 26, 2008 at 11:38 pm
McCain won the debate on substance. Obama tried to compensate for lack of experience with presentation style. McCain should have clobbered Obama right off the bat by pointing out the root cause of the current financial crisis is Freddie and Fannie and the failed socialist policies of the Democrats. Democrats have resisted efforts to regulate these organizations. Obama has direct ties to Franklin Raines who profited by millions through fraudalent management of these entities.
Comment by Karl - September 26, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Stinky, you did poorly this evening.
You’re sleeping on the couch tonight!
Comment by Mrs. Obama - September 26, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Obama won. Mccain sounded angry at times and Obama ept his cool. I am worried that McCain is losi ng his mind. He should retire. He was a good politician at one point but now he is going senile.
Comment by misshiss - September 26, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Barack demonstrated a clear understanding of the issues and seemed to have a salient thought process. Senator McCain was stuck in his past and didn’t look presidential (did he ever look at Barack). I’ve been a Barack supported for some time.
Comment by gcrowell - September 26, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Obama won because he has a more realistic view of the world and didn’t come out talking out of both sides of his mouth. It’s time for a change!
Comment by Sharon Palmer - September 26, 2008 at 11:41 pm
McCain couldn’t even look at Obama. Is that how he deals with people he doesn’t like, if so watch out America!!!!!!
Comment by Kathy - September 26, 2008 at 11:41 pm
“Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.” - Winston Churchill
Comment by Paul - September 26, 2008 at 11:42 pm
McCain won. I am more comfortable with John representing our country on the domestic and world stage. He is less divisive than Obama, has more experience, and has demonstrated the ability to adapt to different viewpoints while still maintaining solid principles to support and balance all American backgrounds and needs. He has the wisdom that only comes from “being there”. Obama has more to learn, and should and not have the Presidency as his classroom.
Comment by Dan - September 26, 2008 at 11:42 pm
My wife and I were not surprised to see that Obama had done so well thus-far. He clearly is great with the TelePrompTer. Unfortunately tonight came down to the facts and issues and McCain simply stole the show. (Is that such a surprise?) Look, we all love fairy tales and are waiting for our savior, many have pinned their hopes on this young talented new face. But after tonight’s debate, John McCain left no doubts that he is prepared to deal with all the responsibilities that come along with being the Commander In Chief. Obama (who may be ready in 12 more years) just doesn’t have what it takes yet.
Comment by RMS, New Jersey - September 26, 2008 at 11:43 pm
As a recently naturalized immigrant, Obama’s story of his father yearning to come to the US didn’t resonate with me at all. Should we really care about what Europe thinks? McCain deeply cares about what matters most, to Americans! As he should, a president should care deeply about preserving values, strength in family, which leads to strength of country. McCain cares deeply about preserving what made and continues to make this country great. Built brick by brick by immigrants we should protect life, freedom, and that resilient American optimism. That’s what attracted me to this country 15 years ago along with the sincere generosity of the US and Americans. That spirit remains, and it takes a man of integrity like McCain to preserve it. www.catholicvote.com
Comment by Nick, Wisconsin - September 26, 2008 at 11:43 pm
McCain failed to explain his support of Iraq war and failure to challenge AlQaida in Afghanistan. He was not presidential. He was smirking at Obama all the time and thumping his chest as a war monger. We need peace in the world and peace dividend to invest in America.
Comment by AJ - September 26, 2008 at 11:43 pm
I think Obama narrowly won the debate. Both dodged questions left and right and turned into a you did this you did that speech. McCain was strong on foreign policy but talking about old links gives his age up and maybe will give people the idea that he is not able to handle issues that effect us today.
To contrast Obama wasnt strong on old issues or most foreign relations questions. He also has said things in past debates that he countered here. Both did ok but McCain kept getting negative hits because of his smirk. To some it might look like a “oh here we go” but others might see it as an arrogant ‘hes not getting it’ idea.
Tying McCain to Bush’s policies without much debate from McCain on the exact attacks were probably the leaning point in the debate.
Obama won by 2-4 points.
Comment by Karl - September 26, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Obama clearly won the debate. He was articulate and to the point. Obama understands and directly addresses the issues. McCain searches for negative labels and uses fabricated facts to make his opponent look like the labels he’s trying to use. McCain is really missing the point and he places no value on the world’s view of the U.S. and it’s citizens.
Comment by SR - September 26, 2008 at 11:44 pm
If I were to decide based on tonight’s debate, it’d be McCain. Obama fails in foreign policy. With the us economy in disarray, it’s a perfect opportunity for terrorist or rogue states to strike the US. Not a time to elect a newbie to the office. McCain convinced me of that tonight. On the issue of energy, I praise McCains recognition that off-shore drilling and alternate energy are mere stepping stones; with 45 nuclear plants to follow for a permanent solution to energy independence. On the economic front, I think McCain was more realistic on what needed to be cut. I don’t think Obama really answered the questions. It’s interesting to me that lots of posters see Obama as being more presidential. I could care less how a person looks. I was listening to whether what they said made any sense.
Comment by Tuan - September 26, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Pathetic performance on both sides. It would be so easy to shoot holes in both their responses. Both parties and candidates are equally worthless and have the combined value of a sack of snail snot. Don’t be fooled, this was an excercise in futility and just a dog and pony show!
Comment by Sergeant Ermey - September 26, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Debate didn’t help. Sorry, but there’s a fundamental problem with McCain that he hasn’t and likely can’t correct for me. I just can’t reconcile McCain’s argument that he’s a good leader, so concerned with “country first”, with his often abrupt, erratic decisions that are too often incorrect or appear politically expedient. Examples include his decisions this past week and importantly his VP choice. His process for & choice of Palin (who we all know would be disastrous for our country should something happen to McCain) reflects very poor judgement and disregard for our country. In that sense, McCain’s the one who is like Bush; he (like Palin) goes with his gut or some might say “follows his heart”. Given that, Obama-Biden is clearly the winning ticket. Debates won’t help McCain-PALIN.
Comment by cincymd - September 26, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Do any Democrats challenge Obama? He will win this election and I predict you will regret your vote. Challenge even your own frontrunner, he is not what you think…
Comment by Truth - September 26, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Obama came out ahead. I am very concerned about Mary’s comments. You saw a different debate if you think the more petulant one was Obama. Standing up for himself when McCain was, once again, misstating his position is not rudeness. What do you think it means to be a Democrat? What policy issues do you agree with McCain on? McCain is clearly an American hero, but name one new idea he has. He flat-out lied about his support for alternative forms of energy. His answer to everything was, “I know.” He has said that the most important aspect for a VP is ability to be President. McCain then picked Palin. Is there really anyone out there who, even if you like or respect her, thinks Palin is ready to be President. Obama is clearly fluent in these foreign policy issues. He won.
Comment by Mat - September 26, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I am biased toward Obama, but I thought it was a draw. McC was snide and nasty, a little iffy on his facts. Obama was tough, more knowledgeable than I figured he would be, and respectful of McC. He is always more respectful of his opponents than I want him to be, but I wish I could be a generous. It was clear that McC isn’t going to win any Miss Congeniality award, so it’s difficult to believe there was very much “reaching across the aisle” while he was in Congress. Also easy to believe there will be little diplomacy in a McC administration.
Comment by lynne - September 26, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Re. Lefty at 11:33 pm, who said disparagingly, “Obama spoke as a lawyer.” Well, so did Lincoln. And as I recall, that lawyer Lincoln turned out to be a prudent president who respected the principles of the Constitution, preserved the Union, and enabled progress.
Comment by L. - September 26, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Clearly Senator McCain isn’t even capable of treating a fellow American with respect and courtesy, which was evident during this debate; he wasn’t even diplomatic enough to address Senator Obama to his face. Is it no wonder why he supports preconditions on talks with foreign leaders? I would NOT want him to represent this great country internationally.
Class act, Senator Obama!
Comment by Common.Sense - September 26, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Mcccain, condescending and arrogant with his snide self-congratulatory chuckles.
Comment by Franky - September 26, 2008 at 11:48 pm
McCain pushes narrative and says “Trust me.” Obama pushes issues and substance. McCain is old and angry and feels entitled. Full of contempt. Obama is a consensus builder, intelligent, forward-looking, recognizing the importance of restoring our nation’s credibility and standing in the international community. Don’t forget that McCain tried to reschedule this debate to next week so the VP debate could be rescheduled to December. Where’s the integrity in that?
Comment by Jane Doh - September 26, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Obama proved and showed that he has the intellect and judgement to bring America’s reputation back.. World is looking forward to and will applaud if he becomes leader of the world and president of the USA.
McCain showed avec condescence.. and such attitude cannot help the world and America.
Comment by Sumit - September 26, 2008 at 11:50 pm
CNN,NBC,CBS,FOX & ABC are so biased. I am so sick of their coverage. Journalism is dead. There is no one that reports without bias. I wonder what our fore fathers would have to say if they could see what has happened to the country they fought to hard to establish. I have to listen to each debate myself to determine what each candidate has said because the coverage is so bizarre. I am deeply saddened by how unproffessional reporters have become. They take no pride in their job. This is the most important election of my lifetime and the coverage is ridiculous. Both candidates have valuable ideas and are very dedicated to public service. We just need to know the facts. NO BIAS PLEASE!!!!
Comment by Char Bowman - September 26, 2008 at 11:51 pm
My next President, Barack Obama, won the debate handedly. John McCan’t, on the other hand, kept running from the issues and kept avoid eye contact with Obama. Not only was it disrespectful but it was cowardly as well. McCan’t had an aire of arrogance about himself, something we’ve seen for the past 8 years from our current President. The same arrogance thats gotten American into its current situation. High gas & food prices, increasing job lost, come on America, we can’t afford 4 more years of this maddness. I hope that we can all put race aside do what’s best for America, cause it certainly isn’t McCan’t. We need real change!
Comment by Keith - September 26, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Obama won hands down. McCain is living in the Past! A question I would ask McCain is this - The surge you recommended is OVER!! So what do we do now??? Do we just stay there year after year spending billions of dollars a day that we don’t have? If it were up to Obama, we wouldn’t have been in Iraq and would still have trillions of dollars in the bank. McCain offers no specific plan to get out of Iraq. He’s a war monger!
Comment by JWilkes - September 26, 2008 at 11:52 pm
I think McCain had problems answering questions on economic matters. He sounded like a broken record, always with cutting earmarks. GREAT! Let’s cut earmarks. What else are you going to do? With Foreign policy I’m more inclined to agree with Obama, but I believe they both handled their points well. The pathos was with Obama, Ethos with McCain, and Logos with Obama. Obama wins this one. BTW let’s call a spade a spade people McCain looked unprepared, Obama looked like a president.
Comment by Endangered Rhetoric - September 26, 2008 at 11:53 pm
McCain is full of lies. I wish Obama would have called him more on it. Nevertheless, if I had to pick a leader, I have more confidence in Obama because he sounds thoughtful.
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Comment by Fight McCain - September 26, 2008 at 11:53 pm
I can not even fatham the fact that any AMERICAN would consider voting for Obama over McCain - Obama is a muslum I have always been proud of my country
Comment by Anonymous - September 26, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Obama seemed confused and frustrated most of the time. He refused to address McCain directly.
Comment by Randy M - September 26, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Obama is so clearly the choice America needs. After 8 years of being run by a political moron, we need someone who can actually think, who can make fresh, informed decisions, who can show respect to and be respected by the world’s leaders, and who isn’t afraid to admit if he doesn’t know the right answer but will commit to staying focused and pulling in the right people until he finds it. Just like Bush, McCain seems best at sticking to the party line, at unethically twisting the truth to slander opponents, and at reiterating talking points fed to him by others. It’s so clear after tonight that McCain would just give us more of what Bush has given us for far too long - weak, reckless leadership based on empty promises and lies. My vote - today and in November - is for Obama.
Comment by hfw - September 26, 2008 at 11:54 pm
McCain thought the US debt to China is $500 billion. Obama mentioned double that, a trillion.
Actually, it’s well over a trillion.
Would you want them to do the shopping?
Comment by fiat accompli - September 26, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Obama was surprisingly good. To be sure, he looked presidental. Maybe McCain won but Obama was able to score a lot of points. And time is running out.
Comment by netreader - September 26, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Obama won points for his beautiful story about his father, and the reminder that America once was truly the land of opportunity.
Foreign policy does not begin and end with war, despite what George Bush and Senator McCain would have voters believe.
Foreign policy is about strengthening ties with our allies, and then setting an example that will inspire our enemies to embrace successful democracy. We have been off of this path for a long time, and Obama was the only man on that stage who understands this.
Comment by Change - September 26, 2008 at 11:56 pm
It was very obvious that Obama is the lawyer. Capable of answering any question without any experience in the subject matter. He is a good speaker, but clearly came out as coached. His youth and inexperience clearly showed and spent most of the time on the defensive. If you want an A student vote for Obama. If you want someone who has been out in the trenches and in the streets McCain.
Comment by JH - September 26, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Obama showed his lack of experience tonight. He wants to give up on Iraq to win in Afghan. Unbelievable ignorance! Obama sounded like a high school debater. All he can offer are sound bites. America needs a leader and John McCain gets my vote.
Comment by ChiliBob - September 26, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Anonymous is an uninformed idiot. You should be ashamed of yourself. I can’t believe an AMERICAN would say something like that.
Comment by hfw - September 26, 2008 at 11:58 pm
I feel that Sen. Obama needs to learn some respect for a man that has done so much for our freedom. Sen Obama consistently calls Sen McCain by his first name, John. Sen McCain never called him Barack, it is always Sen Obama.
It’s amazing how bias can swing judgement, but I can’t understand how anyone would think Sen Obama didn’t embarrass himself. He was lost at times out there. Maybe he should step down to VP under McCain until he is ready.
Comment by Rob, Manhattan - September 26, 2008 at 11:58 pm
In his naivete and inexperience, Obama will throw our troops into unwinnable conflicts just to show he’s the man in charge, just like Clinton changed the mission in Somalia and screwed it up. Obama as much as said so tonight when he said something like “I won’t hesitate to go to war to protect our country”. He isn’t old enough to yet realize what he doesn’t know (and there is obviously a lot he doesn’t know yet). Remember all major wars of the 20th century were started under Dem Presidents. McCain is the only candidate I would want as my son’s Commander-in-Chief because he is the only one who has personal experience with the horrors of war, who will avoid it if possible, and manage it successfully if it becomes necessary.
Comment by rick - September 26, 2008 at 11:59 pm
I supported McCain in 2000 and this year, but can no longer do it. His selection of Palin means he didn’t choose COUNTRY FIRST but politics first. And the more I hear from Obama, the more I like. I know if I pull the lever for McCain and leave the voting booth, nothing in this country will change. And I can’t keep going like this.
Comment by David K, Ohio - September 27, 2008 at 12:01 am
Obama commented that his father wanted to come to this country because he looked up to it, but that now people do not look up to the US. Hasn’t he heard of illegal immigration? Great lines, but somehow a little demagoguery on Obama’s part.
Comment by Marisela - September 27, 2008 at 12:01 am
Obama came out excited, energized and knowledgeable about the issues. McCain seemed unrehearsed and more lethargic.
Obama was right on the mark about Afganistan, and McCain had no new thoughts on winning the war on terror in Afganistan.
Comment by John - September 27, 2008 at 12:02 am
Is it just me or would anyone else agree that McCain’s real reason for trying to put off this debate was to give Palin time to study for the Vice Presidential debate? What a joke!
Comment by L in CA - September 27, 2008 at 12:03 am
McCain just took Obama to school tonight.
Comment by Mycroft - September 27, 2008 at 12:03 am
Love McCain. He is the man.
If a democrat had brain, he/she would be republican.
Comment by David - September 27, 2008 at 12:04 am
‘I have the experience and Obama doesn’t.’
What a childish thing to say!
Comment by Eric - September 27, 2008 at 12:04 am
As with beauty, debate performance is in the eye of the beholder. That McCain is a military man and comes from military men is precisely why I find him quite dangerous: go to war first and think afterward. I agree with George Will that he is temperamentally unsuited to the presidency. Experience can be learned and temperament cannot. McCain showed his mean-spirited condescension, often sneering rather than engaging with his opponent. He made errors i.e. Pakistan will be surprised to hear it’s a failed state. For someone supposedly skilled in foreign affairs rather than economics, I found his answers repetitious and programmed–relying on condescension to carry the day. Very disappointing showing from someone who feels so insecure, obviously, that he cannot make eye contact.
Comment by judgeinmillvalley - September 27, 2008 at 12:05 am
I think Macain was so scared of debate, that he don’t dare to look at Obama, that’s not a President we want.
Comment by Atul - September 27, 2008 at 12:05 am
David - If a republican had a brain, he/she would be a libertarian
Comment by Endangered Rhetoric - September 27, 2008 at 12:06 am
Advantage Obama.
1. This was supposed to be McCain’s turf - foreign policy. And Obama more than held his own. Plus given the week’s shenanigans with McCain’s erratic behavior, I suspect that it will leave the impression that he could have done better had he just kept his focus and eye on the ball - not good for the judgment case.
2. Obama critically needed to look and sound presidential, in a debate not in front of a teleprompter. And he did IMO.
3. McCain is behind in the polls and needed a boost from this. I don’t think he got it.
4. I think Obama’s body language will come across better - he kept personal snipes to a minimum, addressed McCain with respect, looked him in the eye and also addressed the camera.
That said, neither one was overwhelmingly impressive IMO.
Comment by Captain Celestials - September 27, 2008 at 12:06 am
I seriously doubt that a single undecided voter changed his or her mind after this debate. A draw. Fisher vs Spasky: 1/2 to 1/2
Comment by Pushmi-Pullyu - September 27, 2008 at 12:07 am
I feel that McCain showed that foreign policy is his strong suit tonight and that his experience emphasized Obama’s inexperience in that area. Obama agreed with McCain on many points raised. I think that McCain was more factual about handling the economy than Obama. I think overall that it was a good debate. I did think that Obama saying that he had a bracelet too and then not knowing the name of the individual was less than impressive.
Comment by NJ Voter - September 27, 2008 at 12:07 am
Obama scares me, he just doesn’t have the substance to back up his points, he sounds empty to me, like a talking head. McCain is calm, strong and shows experience and leadership - I would feel more secure with McCain as President.
Comment by MK in Pittsburgh - September 27, 2008 at 12:08 am
No contest, McCain is by far the more experienced and polished candidate. Thinking of anyone other having to take on the despots of our time makes me shudder.
Comment by Herb - September 27, 2008 at 12:08 am
Although Obama is a great speaker I found his debate weak. He made a nice wish list but never explained how, in this economic crisis, he could possibly pay for anything he plans to do. His health care system would cost a fortune and be very difficult to implement. He offered no solution to our problem - just pointed a finger. It was both Dems & Republicans that approved Fanny Mae and such - both were at fault - now get us out. I’m not crazy about McCain - but he is certainly not Bush and he does have more experience. Obama might be a great president someday but we need experience now! (I wish we had a Clinton)
Comment by Kathryn36 - September 27, 2008 at 12:09 am
Surprising “poll” results here! However, having read some of the comments, I guess the Obamaniacs flooded the poll.
Comment by Jim - September 27, 2008 at 12:09 am
If this were a beauty pageant, I’d have to say Obama won. And he does a good job of enunciating his talking points with perceived confidence. But alot of his talking points don’t stand up factually. McCain won the debate. Superbly knowledgable and experianced on all facets of foreign policy.
Comment by Patrick - September 27, 2008 at 12:09 am
One other thing. Didn’t McCain’s advisors tell him NOT to wear the red and white striped tie. That’s television 101!
Comment by Endangered Rhetoric - September 27, 2008 at 12:10 am
If one is a Republican under 25 you have no heart. If one is a Democrat over 25 he has no brain.
Comment by rct - September 27, 2008 at 12:10 am
I expected more from Obama. He looked stiff and flushed, spoke like he was channeling Captain Kirk, with hand gestures that seemed like he was holding a cigarette. He skillfully dodged many of the questions about the surge or talking to rogue nation leaders without condition, but it only gave the press an opportunity to discuss these in their analysis.
Comment by Ohio Democrat - September 27, 2008 at 12:10 am
Barack Obama clearly won. He did a good job of pointing out some of the many times when his good judgment steered him right when others were wrong or steered wrong by others. Since McCain was often wrong at those times, he did quite a bit of grasping to try to throw off Obama and ended up looking desperate to win at any cost. One example was how we got distracted from Afghanistan. I worry about the chip on McCain’s shoulder that he commented on tonite –that he knows what it’s like to come home defeated and dishonored, therefore he would have our troops in Iraq stay until victory…past when the Iraqi people want us there? and when we could be fighting Al Qaeda more effectively in Afghanistan?
Comment by EJ - September 27, 2008 at 12:10 am
The situation in the middle east seems to be more complicated than “Al Qaeda is over there, we must defeat them.” McCain doesn’t understand this. Obama does.
Comment by Joe - September 27, 2008 at 12:11 am
Obama has not accomplished ANYTHING. He is a very good salesman, particularly when you read some of these posts. Call me, I have a bridge to sell you.
If he is elected by all of these fools, he will be the least accomplished president we have ever had. Obama runs from crisis, because he has no idea how to handle them. How can he when he has never done it before.
I will go with EXPERIENCE, not words.
Comment by A Joke - September 27, 2008 at 12:11 am
I was put off by McCain’s arrogance and dismissiveness. If he’s Mr. Bipartisanship, how about looking his opponent in the eye? And he would freeze spending on everything but the war, defense spending and veterans’ care? Are we going to become a war state?
Comment by Justin - September 27, 2008 at 12:12 am
reasonably, it was a draw, with obama coming across as at least knowledgeable and basically competent on foreign affairs, although mccain came out slightly ahead on iran. mccain ironically made stronger points on the economy–seemed to be the exact reverse of everyone’s expectations.
i think mccain came out with better closing remarks. obama should maybe try not to otherize himself. and he should maybe lay off calling mccain “john.” i understand the rationale is to make obama and mccain seem as equals, but it actually comes off as a little colloquial and breezy.
Comment by robert - September 27, 2008 at 12:12 am
Not a knockout but a decision for Obama. Substance quickly forgotten by most voters (Why else run Palin?) and Obama looked a bit more Presidential to me.
Comment by Cdr Bond - September 27, 2008 at 12:12 am
Couldn’t agree more with David K from Ohio. As we approach Nov 4, more and more Ohioans like us will recognize that we’re voting for a ticket, that Palin could become president, and that McCain’s choice of Palin reflects very poor decision making (bad news even if he never turns the presidency over to Palin), I predict Ohio will go for Obama-Biden this year and that’ll be the election. Obama-Biden is just better for our country than PALIN-McCain - “country first”!
Comment by cincymd - September 27, 2008 at 12:13 am
The question is about the DEBATE. McCain seemed more in command of the stage, and of the dialogue. Obama often seemed to be scrambling to catch up, then backpedaling because he had gone too far — in effect committing us to war with Russia AND with Pakistan. BUT that said, they both pretty much ignored the moderator’s questions, until near the end.
Comment by BRL... - September 27, 2008 at 12:13 am
Obama Wins Debate!
Sorry McCrusty!
Comment by Anonymous - September 27, 2008 at 12:14 am
Obama showed his famed diplomacy, trying to seek middle ground and acknowledge the opposition’s view.
McCain apparently could not even bear to look at someone who disagrees with himself.
Comment by FLRepublican - September 27, 2008 at 12:14 am
I have a bracelet too … it’s from um… umm … ummm
Comment by John M Alabama - September 27, 2008 at 12:14 am
I expected McCain to win on national security but, surprisingly, the national security points I keep coming back to were mostly made by Obama. Like: Al Qaeda has re-established itself in 58 countries other than Afghanistan and Iraq. Wow. Now I feel that Obama clearly won the debate for me… Obama would force a smarter, more comprehensive national security strategy while McCain’s myopic focus on Iraq is sucking us dry and blinding him from anticipating other attacks from other countries.
Comment by Middle Class in Ohio - September 27, 2008 at 12:15 am
Obama seemed calm, intelligent, forceful, presidential. McCain came off as patronizing, petulant, and above all, old. Even if you think McCain won (which I don’t), this debate was not the game-changer he needed.
Comment by Aaron - September 27, 2008 at 12:15 am
I don’t care so much about what you did. I want to know what your plan is. Experience does not equal ability. Ever work with a boss who has been doing the job forever and he sucks at it? I think they have different strengths that makes them both viable candidates. If something happened to the president, which VP would I want to assume the role? It definitely isn’t someone who thinks being close to another country gives you foreign policy experience.
Comment by T Ray - September 27, 2008 at 12:16 am
I got the impression from John McCain that his response to all problems would be to bomb them. With our financial house in ruins do to the actions of Wall Street and this administration spending 700 billion in a war of choice. How can we even think about standing up to Russia let alone any of these other petty tyrants. We need time to rebuild our military and that time can come through skillfull negotiations. Obama is a good negotiator and a honest man. By the way my least favorite part was when Sen. McCain drug out his old war record. There is no one in the nation that had not heard that story and all of its imbellishmets at least 100 times. I know a number of ex pows and although I love them for their service, I can not see any of them being president.
Comment by Bill H - September 27, 2008 at 12:16 am
McCain’s responses were sharp, extemporaneous, free-flowing, something that comes only when you have clear understanding of yourself and the things you are dealing with. In contrast, Obama obviously failed to match his oppnent. He seemed running out of steam because there is no applause from the audience.
Eventhough most Americans do not believe that Pakistan is our ally, Obama’s statements clearly display the risks associated with his presidency. But Obama’s focus on this issue is right on spot. Talking to the leaders of hostile nations will not make any peace. You just lose your ground.
I see Obama as another Bush. Hillary would have been a better Democtratic candidate to face McCain. Obama should wait for some more years to lead this country.
Comment by Vijay - September 27, 2008 at 12:17 am
McCain clearly showed tonight his past experience. Sort of like reading yesterday’s newspaper. However, I main concern is about tomorrow. It is a new World. Technology and global interdependency have change many things. Looking at the future, the only clear choice is Obama.
Comment by AL - September 27, 2008 at 12:17 am
It doesn’t surprise me at all that some people said McCain won when they use terminology like - “You liberals.” We’re in the bind that we’re in because of comments like that. Grow up and vote for the better candidate instead of voting for your party! Go Obama - he clearly won the debate. When a man who wants to be President can’t even make eye contact - it’s a red flag.
Comment by marine69 - September 27, 2008 at 12:17 am
McCain did a lot of name dropping which seemed a bit high schoolish. It seemed he was stuck on his past accomplishments instead of looking to the future.
I really like that Obama is willing to sit down with other world leaders and negotiate for peace rather than taking us into another absurd war. It’s important to open the lines of communication.
Comment by Judy - September 27, 2008 at 12:18 am
Just do some research into Obama’s accomplishments in the Senate. Can you say non existent?
He can say he will do this and that. it does not mean he can or will.
Comment by jason - September 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
Just do some research into Obama’s accomplishments in the Senate. Can you say non existent?
He can say he will do this and that. it does not mean he can or will.
Comment by jason - September 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
I had higher hopes from McCain… But this didn’t change my mind - I’ll still take McCain over Obama any day. I do think he gave Obama a lesson on foreign affairs. Really looking forward to seeing if Palin can win over a few people next week, or crash and burn. The media has destroyed her… I really want to see if she is as dumb as they try to make her look. Gosh, I hope not!!
Comment by Keith - September 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
Small things: Obama seemed a bit nervous. Lots of “umms” and stumbling to find the right words. McCain remained cool and collected, even when Obama tried to talk over him. Obama also seemed to spend a lot of time defending himself, while McCain just continued to make declarative statements. I give McCain the edge on small points.
Comment by Observer - September 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
Just do some research into Obama’s accomplishments in the Senate. Can you say non existent?
He can say he will do this and that. it does not mean he can or will.
Comment by jason - September 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
Obama is a clear winner.
Comment by Paul, Md. - September 27, 2008 at 12:19 am
Obama faired better than Bush, I meant to say McCain but who can tell the difference between the two anyway.
Just like McCain didn’t win Ms. Congeniality, he’s not going to win the presidency.
Comment by Tony - September 27, 2008 at 12:20 am
Just do some research into Obamas accomplishments in the Senate. Can you say non existent?
He can say he will do this and that. it does not mean he can or will.
Comment by Jason - September 27, 2008 at 12:21 am
Not even close - McCain.
Took Obama to school.
That’s why Obama kept saying McCain was right. It was like a Father and his young son. Obama is not mature or principled enough to even be on this stage. His goofy smiles gave it all away.
Comment by John - September 27, 2008 at 12:21 am
When the chips (economy) is down, it is harder to sell the idea that we should cut taxes and create a better environment for business (starting with intelligent foreign policy). Fortunately, Obama came off at times like a flippant and nervous liberal. It is amazing, in a tough economy, that the race is so close, and this of course is because we don’t know Obama’s (untested) character. So there is still hope for the conservatives, and this hope was at least reinforced tonight. So much for McCain being painted as feeble old man by idealistic but unseasoned youth. Biden came off as insincerely succint in a follow-up interview. I was for Senator McCain before, I am decided for him now, but I respect Obama supporters more for their faith in this engaging and well-studied rising star.
Comment by derlan - September 27, 2008 at 12:22 am
McCain, whom I’ve always liked and hoped would win did quite well tonight, BUT….Obama is simply smarter and more correct and insightful. Obama is a better choice over even the relatively good McCain.
Comment by halbhh - September 27, 2008 at 12:23 am
As a Canadian watching the debate out of interest and with no political ties, I found McCain to be rude and condescending. While Obama listened, McCain did not. McCain seemed like a slightly better rehearsed version of Bush. What a scary thought! Watching your election progress is mush more interesting than watching our own boring candidates.
I also have to say that Obama’s idea of health care seems much more in tune to what the rest of the world has, including Canada. No one here goes bankrupt to pay for health care.
Good luck!
Comment by canadian girl - September 27, 2008 at 12:23 am
To Nick in Wisconsin on your comment, “Should we really care about what Europe thinks?” Yes, we should! I was just in Europe on business, and people over there think that McCain’s selection of Palin is a joke, and they dread another four years of Republicans.
For all the supporters of McCain who shout “Country First,” you surely want the US to be the most prosperous, powerful country in the world, right? The US is at the bottom in world opinion, even with our allies, and McCain sounds like another version of Bush the cowboy.
Comment by Voter in Michigan - September 27, 2008 at 12:24 am
Neither really made a slam dunk but Obama came out slightly ahead. He seemed to be able to put McCains political nonsense in its place. McCain looked like a 20th century leader; Obama looked like a 21st century leader who understands that the world has changed as has the U.S.’s place in the world.
Comment by RJS - September 27, 2008 at 12:24 am
So apparently according to McCain, basically if i talk to someone who i disagree with…I prove them right? Say they have something worth listening to? I guess its a good thing we didn’t set up a line of communication with the Soviets because they were Communists. Especially after the Cuban Missile Crisis. We know there should be no line of communication when nuclear power is at stake. Oh wait…phone line from oval office to Moscow…what was that again?
Comment by AK in Pittsburgh - September 27, 2008 at 12:24 am
McCain wants to be a maverick in the White House. But he will be under the control of the same Republican/corporate influences every Republican in the White House must be.
McCain has already abandon his positions on things like immigration and taxes to side with the rich.
That’s why I’m for Obama. Hoping the People will have their own representative in the White House - at least to the extent that’s possible.
Comment by Bill G - September 27, 2008 at 12:25 am
It is unbelieveable that so many Americans would trust this Nations national security and economic issues to Obama…this guy has no where near the experience that John McCain has! McCain gives facts, Obama hasn,t a clue. Wake up before it,s too late pleaseeeee
Comment by Kim - September 27, 2008 at 12:25 am
It is a sad state of affairs when the candidates dont know the difference between the republican and the revolutionary guards. It is even more sad that the media doesent care. Perhaps we should have Charlie and Katie ask Sarah Palin, assuming they know themselves
Comment by Thomas AL - September 27, 2008 at 12:26 am
On the issues, it was a tie.
The majority of voters vote on emotion or driving impulse. Obama is excellent at tapping into emotion and not close enough on the issues. He will be the poll winner for the debate.
Emotion, impulse and attitude may work against Obama in the election. There are a lot of people saying they will vote for Obama who will not. In some cases, it will be blatant racism. In others, it will be a more subtle racism.
Comment by mmclane - September 27, 2008 at 12:26 am
Respect for the process, let alone just common sense and decency, means looking people in the eye, acknowledging they are in the room. And Ike would have taken full for failure responsibility, but I do not think he had a letter of resignation in his pocket on D-Day. Finally, the abbreviated but nonetheless Churchillian “this is not the end…but maybe the beginning of the end” was just one too many grasping allusions in a foundation of incoherence. In spite of McCain’s condescension, barely concealed bitterness and twitching, Obama found a way to inspire when he spoke about his father, the dreams of all peoples and our place as a beacon of hope in a very troubled world. Obama could be president. McCain (with Palin) should not.
Comment by Russell - September 27, 2008 at 12:26 am
McCain clearly won, Obama stuck to the same old rhetoric with no clear plan. On economics McCain’s plan to support business by reducing taxes is a clear winner. Businesses create jobs, not the poor. On foreign policy McCain provided a good education to Obama. Maybe Obama can learn something from McCain. He outright agreed with him eight times.
Comment by Jim - September 27, 2008 at 12:27 am
There were two highlights, 1, when Obama referred to himself as in Congress, that was a whopper of inability to focus, 2, accusing Kissinger of saying something he did not, giving McCain another opportunity to glare on Obama’s quick ability to rely on lies, as Kissinger makes it clear that there are two conditions for speaking with Iran if anyone has bothered to look at Kissinger’s statement. Obama showed he is a spendthrift without bothering to cut down big government first, and will attack Pakistan without permission from the government when we do not intend to go to war against Pakistan. Obama should give up, grow up, and try again in another country IF he can learn how that country works, since he doesn’t know anything about America except to condemn it.
Comment by Ultra - September 27, 2008 at 12:27 am
Obama won: Clearer on Foreign Policy and Economics, AND OBAMA STOOD UP FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS, whereas McCain did not.
Comment by Joe Baz - September 27, 2008 at 12:28 am
Obama was eloquent, mild mannered, and respectful of his opponent. He provided more facts and details, while McCain did a lot more of “just trust me” and “you don’t understand”.
Obama readily acknowledged agreements with McCain when they exist… that hints of intellectual honesty which most politicians lack these days.
Comment by CD - September 27, 2008 at 12:29 am
Obama is quite good a playing Monday morning quarterback in his ability to ridicule the real time decisions that had to be made over the last several years. If he wins, he will see that it is not as easy to be correct when you have to make choices before you know how the facts played out. Nonetheless, it is clear that he is a smart man. Perhaps in another 15 years he may be ready to be vice president or maybe even president. I did not walk away from this debate feeling McCain was the answer either. He is a great man and a real patriot, but this is not enough to lead the free world.
Comment by Joe Undecided - September 27, 2008 at 12:29 am
“As a Canadian watching the debate out of interest and with no political ties, I found McCain to be rude and condescending. While Obama listened, McCain did not. McCain seemed like a slightly better rehearsed version of Bush. What a scary thought! Watching your election progress is mush more interesting than watching our own boring candidates.”
If we keep going in the direction of having a more socialist economy (more government), our candidates will become dumber, too. All of the attention is on form here, not substance. There are so many substantial differences between the canditates, you have to be a government employee or a business owner to see them.
Comment by derlan - September 27, 2008 at 12:29 am
McCain took the economic issue initiative to use D.C. over-spending like a repeating hammer. Obama had no detailed answer, despite several tries be Lehrer, to his priorities if denied some spending capacity by lack of taxes from poor economic performance in the real world.
When the foreign affairs came up McCain scored well again for having “been there - done that” while little travels are in Obama’s resume.
Obama stammered often and was sometimes a wanderer without the teleprompter crutch. Indecisive on his feet or on the fly and poor in this impromptu style. I have never yet detected any clue that Obama has a true decision-making power of his own - unprompted - and I have spent months looking for that from him.
Obama = inspired speaker using a telepromter - nothing more.
Comment by M. Ko - September 27, 2008 at 12:30 am
mccainis much more presidential. obama recited all the stuff he rehearsed and would not let mccain finish his sentence like a retarded school kid
Comment by mira - September 27, 2008 at 12:31 am
Obama was style over substance. This gravitation towards glossing over the facts should be viewed as the subtext of his story about his father.
His father was not the successful immigrant story in real life.
But Obama glossed over these facts and painted him as such.
This disconnect between smooth campaign ammunition (shining beacon on a hill rhetoric) that skips the truth of the matter (a failed immigration story) is what I find most disturbing.
So, I find Obama’s lack of a grasp of his own truth troubling.
Comment by RealityBites - September 27, 2008 at 12:31 am
While both candidates wasted my time attacking each other, McCain’s misleading characterizations were the worse. For instance, did you know the “liberal” Obama voted with Bush about 1/2 of the time? It’s the BS vs the intellect, and it will be interesting to see if Americans buy into the ideological labeling and false characterizations or into the real substative questions and principles instead.
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Imagine if they spent all their time arguing ideas and substance only!
Comment by halbhh - September 27, 2008 at 12:32 am
The Daily KOS Zombies are out in force tonight. They’ve got links to all the online polls.
The phrase “It’s not fascism when we do it” is totally lost on these net thugs.
McCain took Obama on Foreign Policy and held Obama on the economy.
McCain showed how Obama will drive corporations and jobs away from the U.S. through BAD LEADERSHIP with his naivety and arrogance, destroying the economy.
Comment by Bob - September 27, 2008 at 12:32 am
As an optometrist, I look at eyes all day long, and I have done so for 30 years. McCain’s eyes were darting aside and he blinked excessively as he got angry with Obama. Obama’s eyes were warm and he seemed more able to take the “blows” from McCain when he scolded him. McCain was totally outclassed in this one when it comes to non-verbal communication.
Comment by DrMyEye - September 27, 2008 at 12:33 am
It saddens and sickens me to see that so many so-called AMERICANS (i.e.,Anonymous/11:54) don’t seem to understand the fudemental principles and doctrines of our great nation. People who pledge alligance and salute the national atheme but don’t seem to comprehend the Bill of Rights. Although this country is predominantly christian it is founded upon the principle of FREEDOM OF RELIGION. This right goes hand in hand with the same right that gives you the power to speak your mom on this blog. This shows the down fall of our country due to ignorance and prejudice. For the record Barak is not a muslim anyway, please check your facts. The world is mature and these mind frames need to be put to rest. OBama showed poise, prowess, and an intellectual plan for peace and prosperity.
Comment by Freedom of Religion - September 27, 2008 at 12:33 am
How can you not see this? He wants to nationalize healthcare…nationalization of anything equals total failure. War? Mrs. Rice said it herself…Nobama will get beat down if he tries to meet with the foreign countries without pre-conditions. McCain - Capitalism - Conservatism - Patriotism. Nobama - Socialist - Marxist - Communist. Wake up America!! Republican party is the only way to go. Stop asking what can the Federal government can do for you. That’s how countries fall.
Comment by Nobama lost.. - September 27, 2008 at 12:34 am
Obama won. McCain came into the debate with a severe deficit due to his incomprehensible behavior this week.
Though he dwelled at length on the countries he’s visited in his very long career in the Senate, McCain was simply not able to overcome the blunders he’s made in the last month (picking Palin as his VP; politicking over a terrible national crisis, threatening to boycott the debate then showing up despite preconditions not being met.)
McCain’s actions on the campaign trail lately make me concerned that he would be incapable of dealing with a serious foreign threat, as he seems unable to manage the House Republicans.
And since he seems to hold his own pre-debate pre-conditions in such low regard - can’t imagine how he’d react to a leader of a rogue government…
Comment by AnneCW - September 27, 2008 at 12:34 am
McCain claims that Obama does not understand. I don’t understand either. In fact, I think most American’s don’t understand. In the face of clear policy failure, why McCain still wants to perpetuate Bush’s foreign policy agenda is not understandable. He has shown he did not learn from Vietnam, or Iraq. America can not withstand another four years of bomb, borrow, and spend diplomacy. We have sufficient proof that McCain’s leadership will continue to lead us away from core american ideals of individual freedom, free markets, and international respect. As a nation, we have lost so much of all of that in just 8 years. I just don’t understand. Sorry John, you lost me this time.
Comment by Mr Canary - September 27, 2008 at 12:34 am
Obama’s lack of experience and depth are apparent. While a good college degree and poise are pre-reqs for any important job, we all know that knowledge AND experience are required to lead the United States; McCain showed he has both.
Comment by John E - September 27, 2008 at 12:35 am
Common.Sense check your facts, it was empty suit Obama that didn’t address McCain correctly. Disrespectful of the elder!
Comment by Rep. Wisconsin - September 27, 2008 at 12:35 am
I agree that Obama was all talk and little substance. He really sounded pathetic on Iran. The whole kissinger things was weak because guess what Mccain was right yet Obama firmly insisted that he had Kissinger’s words right.
I think Obama almost lost it in the Pakistan thing. overall I don’t see what was really great about Obama? I really don’t he said nothing new, it was just fillers
Comment by haddada - September 27, 2008 at 12:36 am
Obama came off as smug and arrogant. He is a proud man who cannot admit when he is wrong about things like preconditions and the surge. He is also in league with the Fanny/Freddie criminals, and I worry what he will do to our country with these flaws.
Comment by How much did Obama take from Freddie and Fannie and who picked his VP? - September 27, 2008 at 12:36 am
McCain’s “I’m older so I know better than you” approach was both trite and callus. Out with the old and in with the true.
Comment by Freedom for Change - September 27, 2008 at 12:36 am
Although I like Obama in many ways; McCain is very intelligent when it comes to foreign affairs, and I think he got peoples attention when he stated Obamas thinking is “just dangerous” in that he can just go have discussions with our enemies who post real threats. But them I think Obama has it right about the economy and our financial crisis. He began with stating three directives and McCain tippy toed about that subject. Man to tell you the truth I wish we could have them both. Or even better I kind of wish it could be Obama and Palin running together, smile.
Comment by Amber Sterling - September 27, 2008 at 12:37 am
I can’t believe that after 8 years of a republican president, and the disaster that it has caused, that any right minded person would consider voting for a republican! If McCain and Palin get in, we deserve to be the continued laughing stocks of the world.
The fact that McCain had to try and belittle Obama rather than stating his own policies should be even further cause for concern. He didn’t even try to deny his tax breaks to the oil companies. Breaking the middle class is not going to help our economy. But I guess people who are born republicans will defend him to the end. I just wish they wouldn’t bring the rest of us down with them.
Comment by SF CA - September 27, 2008 at 12:37 am
I’m afraid that McCain was the clear victor here. Obama seemed to ignore most of the valid points McCain brought up. When he did address a point, Obama often addressed McCain’s statements as lies. Too bad for Obama they weren’t.
Comment by American - September 27, 2008 at 12:37 am
Over the lsat 4 years we spent billions on war, made more enemies and lost respect in the world. We now have domestic issues that Mccain never and cannot address. Lets vote for him again and let us be run over by China or Russia. He can’t even make eye contact with another presidential candidate, how can anyone trust he is going to take care of this nation? Yes - let the germans and french laugh at us yet again.
Comment by mock usa - September 27, 2008 at 12:37 am
Mccain recomended send US troops to fight for Georgia against Russia. Russia has a thousand nuke warheads and can destroy US in matter of hours. CAN WE TRUST SUCH A COMANDER IN CHIEF?????
Comment by Vivian - September 27, 2008 at 12:38 am
Hey, notice that point about Obama working with Republicans to create a “Google for Government”?
McCain wouldn’t even be able to FIND google.
No wonder why the old man always focuses on the past — he can’t see the future.
Comment by Welcome To A New World! - September 27, 2008 at 12:39 am
McCain did well. He’ll make a good president
Comment by Teddy Roosevelt - September 27, 2008 at 12:39 am
I am very concerned about the instability in Europe and South America as well as the Middle East. John McCain has the experience to make the right judgement about how to respond. Obama is too inexperienced in foreign affairs to be president. Also, I do believe McCain is more concerned about the economy and working thru that. Even Pres. Clinton said McCain went to Washington in good faith.
Comment by Lynne - September 27, 2008 at 12:40 am
i think the worse thing for americans to do is to vote another war monger as president in person of Mc Cain.this man does not understand the economy and basic principles in life like hunger and being homeless.only racist will vote him.think
Comment by nteimam dienye,ukraine - September 27, 2008 at 12:41 am
McCain was the clear victor. seasoned and experienced. he will be able to answer the phone at 3 am
Comment by david - September 27, 2008 at 12:42 am
McCain comes off as mean and small. He never even looked at Obama. We need a leader that is level headed and thoughtful. McCain is dangerous, he favors force over leadership.
Comment by Chuck Renaud - September 27, 2008 at 12:42 am
There are too many Republican trolls posting here……….. their comments don’t match the percentages above.
Comment by It was the one armed man - September 27, 2008 at 12:43 am
In my humble opinion, Obama veered out into the muddy road’s shoulder constantly by making war with George W Bush, who was neither there or even included in the debate. Of course it’s easy to attack someone in absentia, when that person cannot defend himself. Well, the fresh face in front of a brain that is young and inexperienced did fairly well in debating skills, but that’s what he’s been doing for the past couple years on the road whilst taking in money as a senator who is famous for two things: being the furthest left of any of the 100, and of voting “present.”
Comment by JuanitoVerde - September 27, 2008 at 12:44 am
With McCain we will have more of the same strategies that have got our country in this mess to begin with.
Obama won this debate - he is clearly well informed and has better judgement than McCain.
Comment by Newbie - September 27, 2008 at 12:44 am
The Republicans repeatedly rely upon a litany of three things to win elections — and McCain reflected that to some extent tonight. The very first comment in this forum that he lost because he kept telling lies is significant.
Their litany consists of:
1)Raising a “hot-button” issue to distract voters from the real ones;
2)Promising to cut taxes and reduce the size of government — this is a lie;
3)That they will be compassionate towards the least among us in society — yet another lie.
Comment by Dave - September 27, 2008 at 12:44 am
Osama….i mean Obama is risky and showed he will not make any right decisions on the status of our current country’s position in the world. He will screw it all up! I am a as scared of OBama as I am Osama!
Comment by truth - September 27, 2008 at 12:45 am
obama is a muslim. he cannot be the president
Comment by tim - September 27, 2008 at 12:45 am
I agree with what Obama said about the money we spend in Iraq on this war.
Ten billon dollars a month-
we wouldn’t have to cut any spending on domestic programs if we weren’t spending it in Iraq.
I was impressed with McCain’s name dropping-he didn’t stumble over all those leaders names, pretty darn good for someone his age.
Comment by S. Golden - September 27, 2008 at 12:45 am
Obama is just a phony performer - and not that good at that. The same trait so many are fooled by in television, movies, business, purchasing, etc.
Leave the leadership of our Country to the adult or just stay home.
Comment by john - September 27, 2008 at 12:46 am
I respect that both of these guys had their acts together and gave us a pretty evenly matched debate, but since I actually agree with Obama’s talking points, his jabs seemed more effective to me. EG: “John, you like to pretend like the war started in 2007.” I think the fact McCain wouldn’t look at or engage with Obama directly, and Obama’s obvious willingness to do so, is indicative of their proposed styles of leadership: my-way-or-the-highway, silent-treatment and bullishness vs actual diplomacy and engagement. I think we’ve had enough of the former, don’t you?
Comment by K Cronin, Chicago - September 27, 2008 at 12:47 am
Did anyone else notice that John McCain knew the name of the fallen veteran he wore on his wrist, without looking and that Barrack Obama had to look at the bracelet to remember who it was? This just shows me that Barrack Obama is wearing his bracelet as a political prop. This is horrible.
Comment by James Mitchell - September 27, 2008 at 12:47 am
McCain is so 1950s. He is lost in a “50 year old history” that is lossing its relavance in today’s times. Obama has a new world view in terms of solutions to current problems and solutions. He talks about specific solutions to our pressing problems such as the credit crunch. McCain trots out tired slogan such as “walk the walk and talk the talk”.
McCain has lost his judgement. Maybe its his age. He should have won 8 years ago. Today he should just sit back.
Comment by VB - September 27, 2008 at 12:47 am
McCain proves that he has the experience to be president, Obama sounds just like an attorney every time he opens his mouth it’s a LIE. i.e. Wright, Ayers, if you need more examples just Google
Comment by yvonne - September 27, 2008 at 12:47 am
McCain missed multiple knockout blows. He should have said about the financial crisis:
“I too warned about the impeding crisis in 2005 and proposed a bill for a new agency to oversee the mortgage market. My fellow Americans, when you go into the voting booth on Nov. 4th, remember this difference on how Sen. Obama and I govern….he wrote a letter and I wrote a law.”
Comment by No. CA Independent - September 27, 2008 at 12:48 am
For all the Obama people I hope you know that the majority of congress is held by the democrat. The same democrat that ruin the economy and then try to blame it on McCain, how lame can Obama and the democrat be. Will I gotta get things ready to go up north so to save fuel I’m gonna check my tire pressure. HAHA what a JOKE Obama is!!!
Comment by Rep. Wisconsin - September 27, 2008 at 12:48 am
voting “present” will not cut it for obama as president. decisions have to be made gp mccain
Comment by grandma - September 27, 2008 at 12:48 am
McCain has not learned to think like a statesman, he’s still angry we lost in Vietnam. He looked and acted petulant and cranky, asserting that Obama doesn’t understand, while during each segment Obama was in control of the augments. Obama was poised, coherent and in procession of a broader worldview, which will serve him well as leader of the next administration.
Comment by Rich B - September 27, 2008 at 12:48 am
Spin it any way you want to for your candidate. If you want the truth — Just go to Intrade.com on the internet.
This is where people with money place bets every day; millions of dollars I’m sure.
For the presidential election, the money says: Obama 53% vs. McCain 47%, with 311 electorial votes for Obama if election held today.
Ohio, Virgina, NC, FL look like either Obama, or a dead heat next month. That’s the truth today; Spin doctors — say whatever you want.
Comment by StraightTalk Xpress - September 27, 2008 at 12:49 am
Obama won. He looked straight into the camera. He spoke with confidence, intellgence and was likable.
Comment by Alicia - September 27, 2008 at 12:49 am
Barack Obama kicked John McCain’s ***. John McCain is old and out of touch. If I hear McCain tell that war story one more time, I think I’ll scream!!
Comment by Felisha - September 27, 2008 at 12:50 am
If McCain should win, God forbid, he probably will wear a military uniform for four years.
Comment by Elliott G - September 27, 2008 at 12:50 am
I am more depressed from these comments than from the actual debate. I think both men
more or less stayed with their views.
I think Obama appeared more presidential
and thus won the debate.
Comment by Tom - September 27, 2008 at 12:50 am
For the low information voters who keep posting to this comments page, I direct you to the following:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/kissinger-backs.html
Comment by Seth - September 27, 2008 at 12:51 am
Obama won it - hands down.
Comment by of course - September 27, 2008 at 12:51 am
Obama has class, speaks thoughfully and listens and replied very well to McCain. Frankly I expected McCain to be more honest and direct and to have a more articulated position, and I was disappointed in him. Obama I support.
Comment by Benoit - September 27, 2008 at 12:52 am
McCain definitely did better than Obama in this debate, but I’m still am leaning towards voting for Obama. Not because I agree completely with everything he says he’ll do nor because I disagree with what McCain would do, but because I feel like I have been let down by 2000-2006 republican lead government. They had their try and I was disappointed by the results.
I’m scared to have the house/senate/presidency all in democratic hands, but I’m at the point where I think it’s impossible for them to do any worst that what we’ve seen with republicans in charge.
Comment by nakamichi - September 27, 2008 at 12:52 am
obama is so “smart”
1.he knew not to go to iraq. 2.he knew that the economy is bad.
did he invent the internet too????
so why didn’t he do anything about it. talk talk but does nothing. McCain is the WINNER
Comment by steven cherry hills colorado - September 27, 2008 at 12:53 am
Obama is a leader who finds agreement with his opponents. McCain just wants to fight everybody. McCain has a big mouth because he has small man syndrome, and probably feels weak due to having been a prisoner when he was young. Obama doesn’t need to fight everyone, because he can handle himself, and has the verbal and intellectual skills to solve problems.
Comment by John - September 27, 2008 at 12:54 am
Obama won on the economic issues and more than held his own on foreign policy. I just like Obama because his vision for the country is broader. I feel McCain has the wrong economic policy, and as mentioned above, a war policy more than an international diplomatic policy.
Comment by Angel - September 27, 2008 at 12:54 am
McCain knew what he was talking about. Obama seemed like he was just guessing. My favorite part - listening to Obama try to squirm his way around the fact that he committed to meeting with dangerous foreign leaders without preconditions! He was lying - and I can’t believe any one would even believe his flip-flopping.
Comment by Brown - September 27, 2008 at 12:54 am
I agree with the statement that Senator Clinton made on 3/8/08 on CNN’s newsroom. “In the White House, there is no time for speeches and on the job training. Senator McCain will bring a time of experience to the campaign. I will bring a lifetime of experience and Senator Obama will bring a speech he gave in 2002. I think that is a significant difference.”
Sen. McCain won the debate and more importantly needs to win the election.
Comment by James Mitchell, Virginia - September 27, 2008 at 12:55 am
While Mr Obama had early gains in the debate the substance of the debate indicated that his clear lack of understanding about world events was unmistakable. For example his discussion of the situation in Russia does not even contend with the reality of the Russian influence. His abject misunderstanding of Russian resurgence in the area hints at his useless understanding of the political and military scenario being played out in Ukraine & Georgia. The fact remains Obamas inexperience and naivity clouds his already leftist ideology. This election and debate proves one thing the candidates mask their true inclinations and beliefs. Fortunately, Mc Cain is susceptable to them, b/c he will pursue the harder right over the easier wrong simply because conscience dictates. Well done john
Comment by Jack - September 27, 2008 at 12:55 am
McCain simply does not strike me as a leader. Period. Whether I am Rep or Dem or Ind doesn’t matter. Obama demonstrates to me that he carries himself like a true leader, one who knows to surround himself with the best and the brightest minds. McCain far too often relies on his advisors to feed him quotes that turn out to be inaccurate. I don’t think McCain vets his information with enough thoroughness.
I’m pretty sure that all the polls will indicate a clear Obama win.
Comment by CT - September 27, 2008 at 12:55 am
you know Barack got thru 90 minutes without saying UH, UH,UH
50 or 60 times, so maybe he did win. But I don’t trust any attorney.
Comment by Bilo in Arizona - September 27, 2008 at 12:57 am
Obama has plans on economy. McCain has NO plan.
Comment by tara - September 27, 2008 at 12:57 am
The problem with being a political junkie is heard all their speeches and talking points. McCain basically gave one of his stump speeches by peace meal. Obama used previous statements but not nearly to the degree that McCain did. McCain aged himself with the constant historical references which most Americans under 40 wouldn’t clearly remember. I kept thinking If I handn’t minored in history I wouldn’t have a clue what he was talking about (Beirut 1983).
Comment by case - September 27, 2008 at 12:57 am
McCain doesn’t seem to understand—->He was wrong to go into Iraq, he was wrong to say we would greeted as liberators, he was wrong to assume the war would be over in weeks or months. In fact, Mission NOT accomplished!
Unequivocally, President Obama won the debate!
Comment by PeterV - September 27, 2008 at 12:57 am
Obama stated the facts and was more focus and straight to the point; McCain countered with lies and was misleading and VERRRRRYYY vague, plus he never bother to make eye contact, a real man makes eye contact and respects his opponent. Obama wins.
Comment by chris - September 27, 2008 at 12:58 am
what happened to obama’s pastor. is he going to be in the cabinet???
obama scares me. i will never vote for him. he is just reheasing what he was told to say he really has no convictions.
Comment by wall street employee NYC - September 27, 2008 at 12:58 am
Obama has a better understanding of today’s world because he is not trapped in 20th century geopolitical views. If we want to move ahead and not stay stuck in the last century, we need Obama to be President.
Comment by Alice - September 27, 2008 at 12:59 am
McCain showed the typical republican stubborn nature, saying “Obama doesnt get it…”. Obama came out as poised in his response. The presidental arrogance has done enough damage to American’s image in the rest of the world…we need no more of that.
Comment by D - September 27, 2008 at 12:59 am
I think Obama won the debate, I like his way of talking and informing the fact, while MR. I (Mc cain) was talking without head or tail, his saying about past and story about his, which is not appropriate in presidential Debate, if you count in his debate I think he say I I I ( more the 100 times.) . He is not fit as President of USA
From Deepak Kapasi (New Zea land)
Comment by Deepak Kapasi From New Zealand - September 27, 2008 at 12:59 am
I think it was a tie. I loved when McCain made fun of potential dialogue between Ahmadinejad (what would you say when he says he wants to bomb Israel, no you’re not?” LOL! But Obama seems to have his pulse on domestic issues. The middle class is the backbone of the American economy. This is tough because the world is scary place for a declining world power with plenty of enemies, in this scenario I feel we need McCain. Knowing history tends to prevent repeating it. But for domestic issues, we need an Obama. As for the true winner: Hillary, she has the strengths of both candidates in one. I’m so angry at my party for shafting her, McCain will get my vote. There’s too much at stake to take a chance on Obama.
Comment by republocrat - September 27, 2008 at 1:00 am
I believe McCain was as good as he’ll be in the debates. Foreign policy is his strength and he showed it,to a degree, his grasp of it. But, he is so condescending and that is not what we need from the world’s most powerful leader. What comes out is his faith in the same disturbing foreign policy which has made this country look rather deceitful and empirical.
Obama must win this election if only to keep Sarah Palin from becoming a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
Comment by RobertS - September 27, 2008 at 1:00 am
Clearly, Obama won. McCain came out looking old, mean, snide and not even willing to look at Obama. We don’t need more of the same as the last 8 years.
Comment by Thomas - September 27, 2008 at 1:01 am
McCain won, he clearly showed he has a broader understanding of the world. He demostrated that he’ll save America with experience and prudent government.
Comment by Tony in WA - September 27, 2008 at 1:01 am
I have learned a lot about blogs.People who come here and to other blogs are mostly committed left wing liberals.
I think both candidates did poorly and neither should be President.I saw the debate and to me, it looked and sounded like an older, experienced man making Obama look like a little boy.It showed that without a telprompter Obama is really not such a great orator.Every answer was loaded with ah, eh, uh.
The big thing to me was the lack of ideas and knowledge of the economic crisis we are facing. Nothing really matters if our system goes belly up.This is the most crucial thing facing all of us.People are panicking and no one has money to lend. Savings are being decimated.
If we don’t fix the economy our enemies will win without having to do anything.We will be gone.
Comment by Aaron.J Furman - September 27, 2008 at 1:02 am
Tim - You are an ignorant uneducated fool.
#1 Obama is a christian
#2 It shouldn’t matter what religion he is
#3 He can be president. He is the democratic nominee
Comment by Endangered Rhetoric - September 27, 2008 at 1:02 am
Neither candidate won the debate. It’s obvious they have no clue how to handle the economy, be good stewards of our tax dollars or conduct foreign relations. We’re stuck with two unqualified candidates who have neither the resumes or fortitude to do the job. Whoever wins will be an ineffective, one-term President.
Comment by BrooklynBS - September 27, 2008 at 1:03 am
Let’s see: McCain is the warmongerer but Obama says “Take them out” regarding Pakistan==that’s diplomatic? How many times did Obama refer to his opponent as John or the President of the U.S. as George Bush? And Obama saying he would take care of veterans to a man who IS a veteran. I can just see Obama boring his enemies to death talking themn out of invading countries. Obama had to agree with McCain on so many issues because he hasnt any ideas of his own. McCain wins hands down
Comment by Marc L - September 27, 2008 at 1:03 am
i salute obama as the next president of the USA hes young educated and hes for this century
Comment by pjh1786 - September 27, 2008 at 1:03 am
McCain was condescending, grouchy, and rude to his opponent. Based on tonight’s debate the debacle of the last couple of weeks (economy and international issues) and his pick of Palin for a running mate, I am forced to vote for Obama.
Comment by Linda - September 27, 2008 at 1:04 am
obama = flip-flopping .
so far he never comitted himself and changes his mind according to the weather.
MaCain won and he will be the next presiden
Comment by princess diana - September 27, 2008 at 1:05 am
keep it up obama you have shown class and above pettiness may God make you the nest president of the usa
Comment by pannobaji - September 27, 2008 at 1:05 am
Obama was more professiorial than presidential. Yet I want him to win. It is amazing to me how many people want to vote against their own best interests. Why is it that so many of us, in our decision on who should lead this country, focus on war and terrorism, our supposedly superior status in the world, and on basic values related to keeping guns under our pillow, our gay neighbors out of church, and our raped daughters out of abortion clinics. The level of education in this country must be as miserable as it is because it helps republicans stay in power. They prey on the uneducated, telling them elections are about terrorism and war while failing to help them to get decent paying jobs and health insurance. Governments are there to serve the people, not to mess with them.
Comment by A Dutch-American Perspective - September 27, 2008 at 1:05 am
Mcain’s opponent just doesn’t get it. Except his opponent then went on to give answers that clearly show he does “get it.” Have to give this one to Obama.
Comment by Mike - September 27, 2008 at 1:06 am
Apo
McCain was 10% actual substance, 40% “best offense is a defense”, and 50% of “Walkin’ Through The Park And Reminiscing”. He must have mentioned Regan at least 3 times…..and seems hopelessly mired in the past….as he droned on forever about his sojourns through the 70’s and 80’s. ….snore.
Last but not least, his stunt about suspending his campaign, and wanting to cancel the debate in order to concentrate on the bailout negotiations proved only one thing……the man can’t multi task. That is hardly a comforting trait in someone aspiring to be President in this crazy world.
If this is the best of McCain, I’d hate to see him on a bad day.
McCain did indeed succeed in one aspect of the debate……he proved that he is extremely ill suited for the position of Commander in Chief.
Comment by Always Amazed - September 27, 2008 at 1:06 am
Although I disagree with many of McCain/Bush policies, he is at least competent to be President. Obama is the better choice, however, as he is a much better strategic thinker and has a better vision for the future of America. Obama’s points in the debate made more logical sense to me.
McCain’s choice of Palin for VP, however, shows a serious flaw in his judgment. It shows he cares more about winning an election than our national security. I think America will see how unqualified she is in the VP debate and how dangerous the McCain/Palin ticket is.
Comment by k2source - September 27, 2008 at 1:07 am
If I have to read one more joke that goes “osama i mean obama” I might go crazy. Seriously, can you at least make it funny. “Oh my god, if you replace the b in his name with s….it spells osama!” Clearly I am now convinced I must vote for McCain.
Comment by AK in Pittsburgh - September 27, 2008 at 1:07 am
I watched the debate with my 25 year-old daughter, and McCain scared the hell out of both of us. He was rude and condescending to Obama. Like Bush, he tells the same lies over and over. GoBama.
Comment by Sheila - September 27, 2008 at 1:08 am
Clearly Obama won the debate and reassured America that he is ready for the Presidency. McCain is rude and his smirk and no eye contact speak to his true character. This country needs someone we can trust and who trust us.
Comment by Laura - September 27, 2008 at 1:09 am
Forget the debate. If you saw Palin interviewed with Katie this week, you really have no choice no matter how much you may want McCain. She’s beyond stupid. If there’s a dumber white person in Alaska I’d be surprized.
Comment by SmarterThanYou - September 27, 2008 at 1:09 am
God Bless America! The last thing we need is on the job training yet it seems that is exactly what we are going to get in electing Obama President.
Comment by John - September 27, 2008 at 1:10 am
obama won tonights debate no doubt
Comment by jennifer - September 27, 2008 at 1:10 am
McCain’s choice of “dumber than a moose” Palin shows he is no man to be President. It was so embarrassing to watch her on Couric, it was painful….
Comment by David - September 27, 2008 at 1:10 am
Sen. McCain was mean spirited, would not make eye contact, and lacks any relevant vision. Talk about BORING, endlessly naming all the places he’s been.
Comment by M. Little - September 27, 2008 at 1:10 am
Obama seams great, but that racist pastor is a legitimate cause for concern. What if McCain had a racist pastor? Would he get a free pass too?
Comment by Don't elect racist politicians. - September 27, 2008 at 1:11 am
12:55
Did you get your talking points from Sarah Palin?
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McCain was trying to win a fight at all costs. His inability or unwillingness to treat Obama with respect was a very depressing reflection of McCain’s character and temperament.
He refused to look Obama in the eyes. or reciprocate a smile or any of Obama’s kind gestures and politeness.
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McCain is a warrior, but we need a leader who will unite a divided country. That is why Obama won the debate and will win the election.
Comment by Question - September 27, 2008 at 1:12 am
Can we afford to go through another 4 years of failed politics in Washington. The republican’s strategy is the same that stoled the election in 2000 and 2004. They take adavantage of the senior citizens along with the uneducated public who believe every word and scare tactic that comes out of their mouths. I hope in the year 2008 we have grown and are educated enough to vote for the best candidate instead of the color of his SKIN!!!!
Comment by whats happening to the U.S - September 27, 2008 at 1:14 am
smaterthanyou comments on palins interview thats right shes beyond stupid thats another issue
Comment by pjh311242 - September 27, 2008 at 1:14 am
Tonight Obama definitaley won, it was ver surprising considering that McCain was supposed to be the foreign policy expert, he never proved that tonight and I believe Obama, more than held his own. I think when voters look at re-runs of this debate, Obama will clearly come out as the winner. McCain never looked Obama in the eyes once, which I found to be very weak on his part and it made me not want to believe in what he was saying. Obama was maybe a little too polite, by agreeing with McCain when he found they shared common ground. Obama shared his future vision for America, whilst John McCain kept referring to long dead Presidents to try and validate his position. Obama said to me, that he is the future and McCain seemed so old and dated in his position and policies. Obama=9 McCain=6
Comment by Independent John - September 27, 2008 at 1:15 am
McCain had no answers. He just talked in circles and sometimes made no sense. Often he just retold old stories we have all already heard. We get it, you have been around a long time and have a lot of stories to tell. We need a leader who thinks about the world as a whole and looks beyond constant conflict. McCain can only see enemies. he is haunted by his own experience. We need a new perspective.
Comment by Chuck Renaud - September 27, 2008 at 1:15 am
If John McCain has so much knowledge of foreign policy and wants voters to value his experience, how does he explain his selection of Sarah Palin? Talk about a lack of judgement. His most important decision to date, is his most irresponsible.
Comment by Connecticut mom - September 27, 2008 at 1:16 am
Obama crushed McCain tonight. McCain came across as a war monger during the foreign policy debate. And Obama clearly had McCain on his heels during the discussion on the economy. Obama stated his case for tax cuts for middle America, stated that McCain was cutting taxes for the richest of us all, including large corporations. McCain looked very flustered on the economy. I was a little disappointed Obama didn’t bring up McCain’s 12 houses. Obama is a man of the people.
Comment by John E - September 27, 2008 at 1:17 am
I want a president who can perform in the national arena as well as work on some of the problems we have here at home. obama has the ability to carry that flag. mccain is too stuck in the past.
Comment by kathy - September 27, 2008 at 1:20 am
If you want more of the same bs for the next four years, vote McCain. We all know the same dumb, blind people who voted for Bush will vote for McCain.
Comment by Phil - September 27, 2008 at 1:21 am
McCain has never voted for clean energy. Why does he keep telling lies about this?
He repeatedly lies about being different from Bush on climate change, but McCain voted the same way as Inhofe did on climate change and renewable energy bills 42 out of 44 times in the Senate.
I am relieved to see that undecideds are seeing that he is a liar, because the media won’t tell you.
Comment by Robert B - September 27, 2008 at 1:21 am
I’m knot “surprized”? Are yue?
Quote:
If there’s a dumber white person in Alaska I’d be surprized.
Comment by SmarterThanYou - September 27, 2008 at 1:09 am
Comment by SmarterThanMe - September 27, 2008 at 1:21 am
No hits, no runs, no RBIs. Obama performed better than anticipated in what is supposed to be his weak area yet answered from the defensive several times. McCain was finally articulate but failed in his attempt to paint his opponent as naive and inexperienced. Competent and completely uninteresting debate. The VP debate is likely to be a disaster for the American body politic.
Comment by SMR - September 27, 2008 at 1:22 am
I don’t think many of these posters even watched the debate. McCain was tops but Obama’s face kept getting longer and longer until it looked like a wet paper sack. If a mere debate did him in that badly, what on earth would a few serious world events do to the man!? Obama talking about the future? Why he dwelt on the past at least half the time. What a bag of wind.
Comment by Jane Palmer - September 27, 2008 at 1:22 am
McCain lost the election tonight. Obama was Presidential, gracious, and articulate. McCain was totally outclassed on every level.
Comment by Greg - September 27, 2008 at 1:23 am
Obama focused on solutions first. Obama knows the world and our standing in it. Obama has a better understanding of our economic problem. Obama runs his campaign.
McCain postured. McCain relies too heavily on his advisors and handlers because he has a weak grasp on the issues. McCain’s advisors manage him. I believe he would be a puppet in the whitehouse. His stance on equal rights (esp. women’s wages) and foreign policy are antiquated and stale. He appears desparate.
Comment by jeff - September 27, 2008 at 1:25 am
Let’s see:
–people think that McCain was rude to Obama
–people think that he should have looked at Obama more
McCain spoke forcefully and with conviction. In a debate, one doesn’t have to look at the “other side” only to the moderator. But, of course, the educated masses would know that.
Personally, my impression was that McCain needed to quickly make the point tht he had more experience than his opponent and he sure did that. He had to make strong points and succeeded. Obama hemmed and hawed.
He was on the defensive–hardly a “win” in debate form.
Comment by Sandytx - September 27, 2008 at 1:25 am
I think its quite clear that Senator Obama won the debate. Senator McCain constantly mentioned Senator Obama’s lack of experience; however, where has experience gotten us these last eight years?? In a deficit, thousands of jobs lost,in two wars, and facing an economic crisis all brought on by the party that John McCain so faithfully supports- eventhough he tries his best to potray the opposite to the American people.
America has made the wrong the decision two times in a row; I truly hope the third time is a charm.
Please wake up and realize what we are facing here. Sarah Palin is a heartbeat away from being our President. Open your eyes and that see that a change is needed, and Senator Obama represents the change we need.
Comment by Tiffany - September 27, 2008 at 1:26 am
Can you spell “senile grumpy curmudgeon”?
Jane, you are OBVIOUSLY in a very small minority.
Comment by VietVet - September 27, 2008 at 1:26 am
McCain showed that his conviction over the isseues show me that he is a better Presidential canidate that Mr Obama. McCain had substance over what seems to me that Mr. Obama had it rehearsed his comments
Comment by Dennis from Wisconsin - September 27, 2008 at 1:28 am
McCain won showing his experience and willingness to tell people the truth that we will need to cut spending to begin solving our economic problems. Obama keeps handing out empty promises ie healthcare. Read this gem that was buried today in the Chicago Sun Times:http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1187457,healthcare092608.article
Comment by notochicagomachine - September 27, 2008 at 1:28 am
Jane Palmer is delusional. I watched the debate and it’s clear to me that Obama beat McCain on every level. His answers were more articulate and logical. His presence was “Presidential”. McCain was continually forced to regurgitate talking points and lies about Obama and his policies. All of this was easily and decisively countered by the intelligence, logic, and poise of Obama. Hate to say it, but looks like Obama will be the next President.
Comment by Dave - September 27, 2008 at 1:29 am
Obama and McCain both presented their cases very ably. If we were to believe that McCain was supposed to be the more qualified and stronger on foreign policy, then Obama held his own and it looks positive for him. I agree McCain was really good. But, he did not outshine Obama as he should have on this critical issue - foreign policy. I think that Obama got lucky because the national events (congress bail-out etc.) made the economy an issue. So a tie works to Obama’s advantage.
Comment by RVT - September 27, 2008 at 1:29 am
It does nt matter where you came from..what is imprtnat is where you are going. Mccain is only about where he has been to.I was a Mccain supporter..But I am changing my vote. I was thoroughly impressed by Obama s asipration to make a change. McCain appeared to be bragging..
Comment by PM - September 27, 2008 at 1:30 am
Obama was right, Kissinger backs direct talks with Iran ‘WITHOUT CONDITIONS’.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/kissinger-backs.html
I guess McCain does not know his friend of 35 years.
Comment by Chuck Renaud - September 27, 2008 at 1:32 am
Obama won.
McCain did sound impressive–as a senator. It’s probably good to have a “maverick” riling things up in the stodgy club that is the Senate. But in the Oval Office? Not so much.
And it’s good to have one Senator poring over bills for pork. But to have him setting economic policy during a financial crisis? Not so good.
Comment by Jeff - September 27, 2008 at 1:32 am
Although I’m a lifelong Republican, this election I have to vote Obama.
McCain’s sabre rattling rhetoric is downright alarming. We don’t need four more years of war.
Equally bad is McCain’s failure to have a firm grasp of economic issues.
The final straw, however, is Palin. This woman is not up to the job of VP.
Comment by Matthew Hanson - September 27, 2008 at 1:33 am
I have been a McCain supporter until this week. After seeing Sarah Palin’s interview earlier this week and tonight the debate, it’s clear to me that the McCain campaign is doomed. I’m changing my vote to Obama.
Comment by Sarah Davis - September 27, 2008 at 1:34 am
Obama is just articulate… and that’s it. He talks very well, and that’s it. HE JUST DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO PUT HIS WORDS INTO ACTION.
Comment by Wendy - September 27, 2008 at 1:34 am
The answers given by both parties on the issues are very predictable since their answers stem from the fundamental beliefs of their parties. Obama is definitely more eloquent of the two. Obama is charismatic, well liked and he even looks presidential. Also, the media loves Obama, hence his popularity soared. The media certainly has a lot of influence on people’s decision when the media is the main source of our information. However, I do think that McCain is a better person since he has almost given his life to secure our freedom. Both Obama and McCain could promise the world today but McCain has already delivered by sacrificing his life for us. Obama might have style but McCain has substance.
Comment by Michele, Houston - September 27, 2008 at 1:34 am
McCain was a nasty piece of work tonight and I pray that Obama has the strength to endure the lies and hatred that he and his supporters spread. I also pray that the American people don’t get this election stolen again. We need to wake up.
Comment by Peter W - September 27, 2008 at 1:34 am
Voted Bush in 2000, voted Kerry in 2004, and every time I hear Mr. Obama speak I am more drawn to him. It just does not sound like political rhetoric, he feels like someone that really cares. He answers the questions, and he is cool under pressure, proactive not reactive. McCain seemed uptight and standoffish…
Comment by Sheeves - September 27, 2008 at 1:36 am
The very question on who won and who lost is irrelevant, because it only encourages more partisan venom responding to the qeustion.
Comment by H. T. Wong - September 27, 2008 at 1:36 am
Obama was intelligent, measured, polite, sharp and well-informed. McCain was grasping for a way to counter Obama’s factual responses.
I would be a heck of a lot more comfortable with Obama in charge than McCain.
Comment by Sara in MN - September 27, 2008 at 1:36 am
OBAMA clearly came out ahead as more issues oriented, statesman-like, and gracious (read Presidential or at least what one should be like rather than the one we’re experiencing). McCain sounded exactly like his ads — nothing but distortions and lies.
Comment by movedtotheleft - September 27, 2008 at 1:37 am
Obama used appropriate facts and sharp analysis to make his points. He appeared presidential. Mccain looked angry. He could not look at Obama and speak directly to him. Mccain is known to forget facts. This was not exception. Perhaps these are the reasons that all polls concluding his defeat in this debate, which I also concur. However, I must say that Mccain did better than I expected.
Comment by Das - September 27, 2008 at 1:37 am
Senator McCain: The Surge was a TACTIC in the STRATEGY to bring about a stable, and unified Iraqi Government. The strategy has not been successful, how long until we need to re-do the tactic? Bring ‘em home.
Comment by Robert - September 27, 2008 at 1:38 am
I am a conservative and I believe Obama won the debate without question. He was far more articulate, and his answers exhibited much greater depth and thoughtfulness. McCain relied too much on stock phrases we’ve already heard on the campaign trail, rather than responses to the questions or Obama’s statements. Honestly, I might be giving Obama serious consideration right now, if it weren’t for so many of his annoying, bitter and radicalized supporters, including a number of people posting here.
Comment by Chris - September 27, 2008 at 1:38 am
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75717
[quote]While many pundits are pointing to corporate greed and a lack of government regulation as the cause for the American mortgage and financial crisis, some analysts are saying it wasn’t too little government intervention that cased the mortgage meltdown, but too much, in the form of activists compelling the government to pressure Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae into unsound – though politically correct – lending practices.[/quote]
Comment by Stan J. Liebowitz Article - September 27, 2008 at 1:38 am
You guys have no idea of what’s coming down the pipe. Neither does Obama. Your comments are a reflection of the portion of the population who has knowledge of and access to the internet. That’s just not most of us.
I read something recently about people in their late 20’s and early 30’s moving back home to “weather out the crisis”. What exactly do you kids think is happening to your parents? You can’t feed off of them any longer. You have to be in a position to take care of them.
Grow up!
Comment by lre - September 27, 2008 at 1:39 am
Every time Mc said, “Sen. O does not understand,” he sounded exactly like Bush. How many times has Bush told the American people they do “not understad”? It is one of Bush’s many signatures. It doesn’t work, because, sadly, it seems Bush did not very understand about what to do or how he did. McCain is squarely in his footsteps, and as a US Senator, he had next to no responsibility, other than to join a gaggle of senators to argue out laws and second-guess executive branch officials. Result: McCain lost very big.
Comment by A Pennsylvania Mama who "understands" who won - September 27, 2008 at 1:39 am
McCain sounded informed and specific. Obama sounded general and uncertain and defensive.
Comment by bobbi bentley - September 27, 2008 at 1:40 am
socialist zombies are out in full force
Comment by antizombification - September 27, 2008 at 1:40 am
Obama 66%, McCain 30%….on the WSJ poll. poll. Delighted to see that most agree. Obama came out as a presidential, knowledgeable, consensus builder. McCain came out as an angry, lecturing old guy. Add Sarah Palin vs. Joe Biden in the mix and this election should be a no brainer.
Comment by Eric V. - September 27, 2008 at 1:41 am
I have followed the issues closely, and much of what McCain said was simply false. I was particularly offended by his attempt to justify Musharraf’s 1999 military coup in Pakistan. All we need to finish destroying our leadership abroad is a president who justifies the overthrow of a democracy. Of course, this is the same person who does not realize that Spain is an eminently democratic country, and a NATO ally. Plus, he did not once look at Obama, even when the latter was addressing him. That was incredibly rude by any standard (will he treat foreign leaders the same?), but it also made him look embarrassed at what he was saying and at the unfair ways he was attacking his opponent, a decent man even to those who disagree with him.
Comment by Marian Prio - September 27, 2008 at 1:41 am
I am a proud Independent, and watched this debate very carefully. I’ll leave the debate over the candidates’ handling of the issues to others here, but I could not help but notice some very sharp differences. My takeaway from this first debate is that in both his rhetoric and comportment, McCain proved himself to be precisely what this country does not need right now: aloof, smug, condescending, ill-tempered and haughty. Obama, on the other hand, was composed, classy, and even-keeled. The latter attributes seem to be critically important to me as our country seeks to restore its standing in the international community.
Comment by Nick - September 27, 2008 at 1:42 am
I want to vote for McCain but he comes across as that crotchety old man who steals your ball because it landed in his yard.
Obama was calm cool and very Presidential.
Comment by Dan - September 27, 2008 at 1:42 am
Obama won cuz he said, I have a bracelet too.
Comment by Anna Carvlin - September 27, 2008 at 1:42 am
Obama is truly a gasbag. Hope hope hope, change change change. He doesn’t say a word on how he’ll bring this about. Vote Obama if you want to get fleeced by one slick dude.
NOBAMA IN THIS LIFETIME
Comment by Duncan McFadden - September 27, 2008 at 1:42 am
McCain sounds like a bitter old man. Your cranky old uncle who knows it all and doesn’t listen to anyone.
Comment by Mark Slosberg - September 27, 2008 at 1:43 am
Both showed they know little about the current economic crisis and Obama showed he knows little about foreign policy, but McCain is such an inadequate speaker that he had to focus on his talking points instead of hitting the softballs Obama threw at him.
Comment by Shannon - September 27, 2008 at 1:44 am
I think Obama is all about himself and never answers the questions. Did you see him on O’Reiley he acted the same way dodging the important questions and answering with things he wants to talk about, like himself.
Comment by Anonymous - September 27, 2008 at 1:44 am
Bah, Humbug! I am a grouchy, miserable old man…who is ready to say anything to become president. I don’t want to talk about solutions to problems, but only about Betty in St. Louis or Louise in Wichita. How could you not vote for me? Don’t I remind you of your rude great uncle at family gatherings?……This guy would be a terrible choice for President. Even worse than what we have right now. He so visibly shows his terrible characteristics of condescending others, being disrespectful, having visible dificulty keeping composure. Absolutely not the best Republicans have to offer.
Comment by Ryan - September 27, 2008 at 1:45 am
If Americans are not racists then Obama will be their Presidential Choice. McCain is just a downrigh old man who can NOT express himself can NOT even tell the name of pakistan leader. Apart from his military experince which school did McCain attend. Wake up Americans and stop your Racist behavious. Choose a wise leader. Obama!!.
Comment by Ngigi - September 27, 2008 at 1:45 am
i was a clinton supporter because obama scare me then and scares me now. we need a presiden that walked the walk and not just talking material that is reheased
McCaine is the next president
Comment by barbara CA - September 27, 2008 at 1:46 am
John McCain is no George Washington, but compared to Barack Obama he is George Washington.
Comment by Jeremiah Wright - September 27, 2008 at 1:46 am
I was told long ago by my wise father, that you always look into the eyes of your opponent. It was a sad day today as Senator McCain never looked Senator Obama in the eye’s or yet in his direction. And we expect him to run our United States of America. Hands down Obama won this one.
Comment by Isaac - September 27, 2008 at 1:46 am
i was on the fence but will now be voting for obama. i thought obama addressed the issues much more clearly and in a more presidential manner. i am disappointed in john mccain. i voted for him earlier but it pains me to see him running from his record and what he used to stand for.
Comment by rob - September 27, 2008 at 1:47 am
Would have to say McCain clearly won…really finished strong.
Comment by Fair Play - September 27, 2008 at 1:47 am
I listened intently to learn something new. As a Republican woman…one of many who had planned to vote for Senator McCain and completely changed my mind with the selection of Sarah Pailin. I wanted to see if my little Republican heart would die by my voting for Obama.
I learned he is well educated, knowledgeable and as I believe in the separation of powers, we will be just fine.
Comment by The Baubster - September 27, 2008 at 1:47 am
I could not help thinking that when McCain tried to impress everyone when he said he had traveled to this place and had met this person and that he has known Dr. Kissinger for 35 years, when is he going to conduct the Vulcan mind meld and transfer all of this to Sarah Palin.
Comment by paulmarq - September 27, 2008 at 1:48 am
Both are dumb, boring and mediocre… Is this all America in 21st century to offer ? I hoped for another Kennedy.
To settle the matter, here is the litmus test. Who looks good ? Obviously both have ugly and repulsive faces. Next in line are the VPs. Palin is beautiful and my vote goes to McCain!!! yo..
btw.. Dude, where is my bracelet ?
Comment by UMD from India - September 27, 2008 at 1:49 am
Obama convinced me he understands the way world works. America is the greatest country in the world, but we can’t be strong if we’re not going to be smart. McCain wants to wield power. Obama wants to build it. That makes him the right leader at the right time.
Comment by David - September 27, 2008 at 1:49 am
Fact check and you will see McCain kept lying about Obama’s position and Obama’s saying Kissinger agrees with Obama’s stand on Iran was true. McCain is a lier. Just like George Bush (how many times has Bush lied? Daily?). We need someone who we can trust when he says there is WMD somewhere!
Comment by Love of Jesus - September 27, 2008 at 1:50 am
McCain clearly won the debate on foreign policy because Obama showed how inexperience he really is. He has no idea about what is really going on in Afghanistan. He also as no clue about who creates jobs in this country.
Comment by Scott CA - September 27, 2008 at 1:51 am
Obama is the man America needs today because America needs to restore its credibility around the world. By messing up its international policies and its domestic economic policies Republicans need to be ousted. Obama’s multicultural background is a HUGE plus. It will help restore the American Dream. Obama can move away from war strategic rethorics and get the support from the world America needs to restore peace in the middle East as well as to effectively combat terrorism. McCain’s thinking is an isolationist way of thinking. No one outside of the US will trust him because he still believes in the lies spread by the Bush Republican administration.
Comment by Larry - September 27, 2008 at 1:52 am
If McCain Running mate (Palin) was in this Debate I she would beaten her boss. I would predict results as follows. Obama (55%), Palin (30%) and McCain (15%). McCain is a disaster on expressions. Americans do you want a war Monger or president. Choose Obama.
Comment by John - September 27, 2008 at 1:53 am
McCain said during the debate that he will never be Miss Congeniality. Is he trying to be? He is too much of a wuss just like Bush and if he were elected it would be a 3rd term of Bush. If he thinks that “maverick” thinking is going to get our country out of this economic morass, he better concede defeat now and let the Democratic party win.
Comment by Jay, Denver, CO - September 27, 2008 at 1:53 am
How, exactly, did Comrade Obama display leadership after “Call me if you need me”? Or after refusing to answer questions? Or after declaring that he’d talk to Ahmanutjob, but not the American people? Or after refusing townhall meetings and debates?
What kind of leader whines, makes a half-assed speech or starts a new website whenever somebody “attacks” him? If that’s what people call leadership, I feel sorry for them.
Comment by ThatGayConservative - September 27, 2008 at 1:54 am
I talked to my husband and we feel that this debate showed us two things. That Mccain is a fighter and will hit first and ask questions later and that Obama will ask the question let’s look at the situation and see if we can figure out our difference before we take our countries to war. Like a good marriage good communication is the key to success and there is always two sides to every story and a wise man gets both sides first.
On another note why can’t we do something as simple as allowing all americans to refi there loans at 4% and the loan amount (not apprasied value), with the same lender that is holding the loan. This way we all do our share to get us out of this situation. There has been greed from all sides and we all need to help get us back on our feet. There is more but this.
Comment by Comment by Betty H - September 27, 2008 at 1:54 am
Draw your own conclusion.
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?…
MCCAIN
66% 119,960
OBAMA
32% 57,267
NEITHER
2% 4,107
Total Votes: 181,334
Comment by free_will - September 27, 2008 at 1:55 am
McCain beats Obama again. This guy is truly an empty suit. If Obama was President, Iraq would have been lost and gas would be $20 a gallon. His answer on how to create jobs is to take another $300B out of the economy. This is the same old stuff the Democrats have been peddling since the 60s.
Comment by Karen - September 27, 2008 at 1:56 am
i am an independent and i lean towards McCain. obama did not do anything yet to prove that he can be president. he has no grasp of the issues facing the USA at this dire times.
presidency is not for trainees.
Comment by independent new mexico - September 27, 2008 at 1:56 am
McCain did everything an old foggy would do. His disrespect is really racism. He may have even farted.
Comment by SmarterThanYou - September 27, 2008 at 1:57 am
Ok kids - here’s the deal! Beware of the barking seal with the ball on his nose. Obama reminds me of the old IBM sales approach of telling you, “how good it’s going to be”. Big time, intergallactic vision without the goods to back it up. Are you with me so far, kids? Obama, as smooooooooooth as he sounds, hasn’t done squat. Nada. Sooooooooo, I look for a guy that has at least produced the goods once in awhile before he starts taking over my steering wheel. Ok, Kids! Now you get back to your homework and get it right next time!
Comment by Bill - September 27, 2008 at 1:57 am
Obama was tonight’s winner. He looked and acted presidential, and showed civility.
McCain was condensending toward Obama. I expected to see evidence of his proclaimed bi-partisian skills. He came across as a mean spirited old man reminsising about the past.
Comment by Deborah Reynolds - September 27, 2008 at 1:57 am
Obama hit it out of the park tonight. Judgement, intelligence and critical thinking is the most important deciding factor for me. Obama, tonight showed he is ready and able to lead. Even though I may not agree with some of senator Obama’s policys, he’s smart as a whip, and will make the best decision for this country.
Comment by Michael - September 27, 2008 at 1:58 am
McCain clearly knew what he was talking about as Obama continuously stumbled on questions.Obama’s entire campaign has relied on bashing oponents without any clear vision or so called change he wants to implement.
Comment by R Schwinn - September 27, 2008 at 1:58 am
I think McCain won, but since I’m white and from the south, that makes me a racist, even though I have spent my entire life protecting everyone in America.
Comment by Michael - September 27, 2008 at 1:59 am
FYI BIDEN VOTED for the IRAQ WAR - why doesnt Obama slam him. Or can he feel the war wasnt handled well, and McCain cannot??
You Obama lovers must not have listened to the debate. Obama would NOT take a position on the bailout, nor the economic crisis (leadership *gag*). Obama wouldnt answer if we were winning in Iraq, what we should do (ever in his campaign) when questioned do you feel we are not winning the war, paraphrased - no I wouldnt say that (look up the exact quote its worse).
I do not feel either won the debate, Obama was very defensive(elusive), and for someone that is about CHANGE - he sure is playing old politics. He would not take a stand on anything! Especially the economic crisis facing America (he said he’d give us his opinion after he met w/ paulson, then it was AFTER p
Comment by - - September 27, 2008 at 1:59 am
McCain won the debate but not by much. He needs to do a much better job in explaining how he will help fix the economy. I am looking for
1) How will he address regulation disaster in financial industry
2) What is his Dollar strategy
3) How will he address the debt in long run. I understand that cutting spending will help, but you just can’t cut it to bones. That will create log term disaster in area of key regulations.
4) How will he address pakistan problem. We like it or not two of our key allies, Pakistan and Saudi are more enemies than friends.
5) What is his India strategy?
McCain looked calm and composed and couple of time he managed to make Obama little uneasy and that shows Obama’s immature approach to certain issues in Foreign Policy area.
Comment by amit - September 27, 2008 at 1:59 am
As a small town kid who voted for CLinton, Gore and Kerry, I officialyy pic McCain. McCain dominated as Obama was always on defense. Obama rested for days and McCain came in and kicked his ass. I was afraid he was an idiot like Bush, bottom 5 of his class etc. But he is no Bush, and Obama I still don’t know what he is
Comment by McCain Won - September 27, 2008 at 1:59 am
Bill writes: “Ok kids - here’s the deal! Beware of the barking seal with the ball on his nose. Obama reminds me of the old IBM sales approach of telling you, “how good it’s going to be”.
Yeah, and Bill, IBM got to be the biggest and best company because?
Comment by SmarterThanYou - September 27, 2008 at 2:00 am
SmarterThanYou with his IQ rarely hitting room temps, exemplifies the liberal mind-set. “farts”. Way to go, pinhead!
Comment by Bill - September 27, 2008 at 2:00 am
McCain started a bit awkward, but his victory in the end was total. The One stammered and stuttered when asked which of his plans would change as a result of the financial crisis, and couldn’t answer the question even when asked twice. On foreign policy, McCain revealed a depth of knowledge and experience, and showed that his opponent knows little beyond his memorized sound bites. He showed his deep understanding of the issues, displayed a far more steady and presidential temperament, and finished powerfully. While I agree that The One scored some points in the beginning by repeatedly linking McCain to Bush, he couldn’t even control the economy questions and his closing remarks were downright Gorean.
Comment by Joe Clark - September 27, 2008 at 2:00 am
Obama confidently and clearly explained the bigger issues at stake and what needs to be done to rescue the US and respect for its leadership in the world.
McCain is angrily stuck in the past, sees the whole world through tax cuts and war in Iraq and bitterly lied and lied and lied.
McCain repeatedly claimed that Obama does not understand or is naive but this contrasted sharply with Obama’s clear understanding of the complexity of what the country faces inside and outside.
An A for Obama and a resounding F for McPain.
Comment by GMA from California - September 27, 2008 at 2:01 am
AFTER paulson and bernanke presented their plan THEN THAT wasnt good enough, so now he wont say ANYTHING, _you_ want a President that waits to see what ends up working/fails and takes the successful side?). When asked what side he falls on the bailout NODDA cant answer HUH?!?! This is leadership and _change_?
He wont answer BECAUSE 1/3 of America is against the bailout - despite it being needed… and he doesn’t want a dip in the polls. Last I checked he was a SENATOR first and Presidential candidate second, unless he feels he isn’t needed and cannot contribute to one of the most pressing issues in decades…
At least McCain is sticking his neck out w/ SOLID plans, and presenting his proposals. Obama’s tax ideas arnt even set in stone, “ill figure out the % once im in office.”
Its shoc
Comment by - - September 27, 2008 at 2:01 am
Too bad McCain didn’t mention how he gave up classified information under pressure when he was a prisoner (so he could get better treatment). Country first? I don’t think so. Don’t believe it - READ HIS BOOK.
Comment by SmarterThanYou - September 27, 2008 at 2:02 am
sure….mccain has a grasp of the issues facing the USA….was he the one that said a week ago that our economy is fundamentally sound? hahaha…what a joke he is. i am a 36 year old man who has never voted yet…as i always saw the parties as the same content…in different packaging. the situation in our country and the world today are forcing me to cast my vote on super tuesday this year.
Comment by ryan - September 27, 2008 at 2:03 am
McCain is too Rude to be President.
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He will keep us in the current wars and will add conflicts in Iran, the Caucasus and with Venezuela.
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We americans will be hated even more.
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I travel a lot and prefer to be welcome when I travel.
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The choice is clear.
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OBAMA
Comment by Anonymous - September 27, 2008 at 2:03 am
I AM TRULY SURPRISED BY THE SIMPLISTIC AND SHALLOW LEFTY VIEWS POSTED ON A WSJ SITE. OBAMA SUPPORTERS AND McCAIN SUPPORTERS EACH THINK THEIR CANDIDATE “WON”. BUT IF ONE ACTUALLY CARES WHO WOULD BE MORE COMPETENT TRUSTWORTHY PRESIDENT, THIS DEBATE REINFORCED THE FACT THAT IT IS McCAIN. OF GREATER CONCERN IS THAT OBAMA IS SIMPLY NOT PREPARED. (I DO THINK HE WILL MAKE A VERY GOOD VERY LIBERAL SENATOR.)
Comment by Frank Lee - September 27, 2008 at 2:05 am
obama is a looser and if there were no quotas for minorities in the ivy league schools he would still be dealing with drugs. he has no clue how to lead a country. he really needs a vacation and visit his grand ma in kenya and help her feed the chickens
Comment by lewelleyn - s africa - September 27, 2008 at 2:05 am
I feel that McCain is a one-trick show…Iraq, while Obama is able to keep his eye on multiple threats. Obama was correct to point out that the power vacuum in Iraq, that the U.S. created, has emboldened Iran. It scares me that mistakes on one war are leading to very hawkish comments and possible war with another more lethal threat.
Comment by Fred K - September 27, 2008 at 2:07 am
I see the Obamatons are out in full force again tonight. Full of themselves and their candidate, but completely divorced from reality. Spouting nothing but the talking points prepared for them by Barry O. Unable to express a cogent thought of their own. Pretending to be people who were independents, moderates, moderate leaning Republicans, etc. They fool nobody. Filled with hate for any who do not agree with them, they have nothing but their self-loathing to keep them warm at night.
By any objective measure, John McCain won the first debate. The depth of his understanding, the breadth of his knowledge, the wisdom gained by hard experience, all came through and clearly outclassed Obama. He may not be flashy, and he may not be glib, but I’ll vote for John McCain and be proud to do so.
Comment by Wisconsin Mike - September 27, 2008 at 2:07 am
I was told along time ago by my wise father that you should always look your opponent in the eye. It was a sad night as McCain would not look Obama in the eye’s, or better yet in his direction. And we expect McCain to lead this country. Clearly Obama won this one.
Comment by Isaac - September 27, 2008 at 2:08 am
Guys…let’s keep the racist comments off this site!
Comment by Fred K - September 27, 2008 at 2:08 am
McCain could not look Obama in the eye, this seems weak or weird.
Comment by AmericanPatriot - September 27, 2008 at 2:08 am
When the first question was asked about the financial crisis, Obama outlined a point by point action plan and McCain told a story. No contest.
Comment by CWF - September 27, 2008 at 2:10 am
Obama won both on economy and foreigh policy. On foreign policy, Obama’s carrot and stick approach combined with restoring respect for America around the World is the way to go. McCain still seem to think he can solve the World’s problems with a cowboy approach.
On the economy, McCain still thinks the big mess on Wall Street is a temporary blip.
Comment by kumar - September 27, 2008 at 2:10 am
In a society full of themselves and in love with Hollywood, Don’t try to explain experience over pomp and illusion to fools!
Comment by Jim - September 27, 2008 at 2:11 am
The software in this site, are the technical aspects managed by McCain?
Comment by Question - September 27, 2008 at 2:11 am
The Republican Guard was Saddams group in Iraq, the Revolutionary Guards is the group in Iran. He missed that one.
Comment by McCain muff - September 27, 2008 at 2:12 am
What depth of understanding? Couldn’t Johnnie boy at least have gotten Pakistan’s new leader’s name correct?
Comment by rick - September 27, 2008 at 2:13 am
I give the win to Obama. I feel like it was close to being a tie, but given McCain’s angry tone and disrespectful attitude I feel like Obama proved he would be a better President. I understand that it is a debate and they may not be “nice” to each other, but I think it is unacceptable that McCain didn’t even have the decency to look his opponent in the eyes. He acted like he wasn’t even there. What is that! I don’t want a President treats anyone like that.
Comment by RLR - CT - September 27, 2008 at 2:15 am
McCain clearly showed a greater grasp of the issues, and what to do about them! He had a greater understanding of the war in Iraq and the consequences of not finishing the job. His experience in foreign relations and his grasp of domestic issues showed much more depth and understanding then did Obama. McCain’s perceptions of what to do in times of crisis were far superior to those of his opponent. McCain easily showed a fuller understanding of the effects of tax cuts and reduced spending. Across the board tax cuts are equally beneficial to all regardless of income level. The misconception emphasized by the Democrats that such cuts favor the wealthy are totally wrong! Growth and a healthy economy requires less government intervention not stifling socialistic control!
Comment by Robert G. - September 27, 2008 at 2:15 am
Poor Isaac. All he knows how to do is repeat himself. Too bad he lacks the wisdom he claims for his father. Looks to me as though Isaac and AmericanPatriot are reading from the same script.
Comment by Wisconsin Mike - September 27, 2008 at 2:15 am
“It’s a clear fundamental economic law. You cut spending at the expense of economic growth. YOu can’t have no spending and still try to have a growing economy.”
Your confusing government spending vs. free market. Government spending does not grow GDP nor does it create lasting economic well being. The best it can do is create a tempory band aid during a downturn.
I fear that many in this nation are to ignorant of economics, history, and foreign affairs to see how bad Obama would be in the role of POTUS. I’ve never been a big McCain fan, but is far ahead of Obama.
As for who won the debate - McCain. The online poles will be showing Obama as the Kos kids and other lefty blogs are encourging their minions to flood the online polls.
Comment by emaughan - September 27, 2008 at 2:16 am
Obama won hands down!! McCain came accross as his true self — a grumpy old idiot.
Comment by Ike - September 27, 2008 at 2:17 am
McCain all the way. Clearly more knowledgeable.
Comment by Claudia - September 27, 2008 at 2:17 am
Ya OBAMA can keep his eyes on multiple stuff.. Thats why he wouldn’t answer a single question on the war in Iraq definitively, or what he THINKS about the Bailout- if its good etc, will he vote for it. If he doesnt KNOW perhaphs he should have spent his time in WASHINGTON being involved in it or at least getting INFORMED (it will affect him once hes ELECTED LOL).
Politics as old from the man of CHANGE? HUH? Truly sad, people are still clinging to this empty ‘hope!’.
Comment by - - September 27, 2008 at 2:18 am
Obama remains a different type of politician choosing to validate other countries and discuss issues rather than go to war. McCain represents the Cold War era of shoot first, ask questions later. Obama recognizes that we are a small part of a large world and we need to find common ground with our friends and our enemies. McCain still believes in the “big stick” theory. My vote goes to the intellectual who isn’t afraid to use the military if need be but prefers discussion to war. Go Obama!!
Comment by Regina L - September 27, 2008 at 2:18 am
Beware of someone who avoids your eyes, they are usually dishonest. They try to make you less human, these people will torture you and they can kill you.
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McCain cannot be trusted.
Comment by Anonymous - September 27, 2008 at 2:19 am
Obama Rocks !
Comment by lewelleyn - s africa - September 27, 2008 at 2:19 am
It is enough of “Cold War”, time is changing and our country need dynamic and looking forward leader. For 8 years of one party we created enormous amount of debt, we have to rebuild our economy and raise our level of education, instead of slash tax for those who already packet big XXX. It is enough to “play on our feelings” with old-fashion stories. Times is changing and we need “fresh-thinker”, we need to develop international economy-their is no other way to comped in global economy.
Comment by Lenchek - September 27, 2008 at 2:19 am
Ya OBAMA can keep his eyes on multiple stuff.. Thats why he wouldn’t answer a single question on the war in Iraq definitively, or what he THINKS about the Bailout- if its good etc, will he vote for it. If he doesnt KNOW perhaphs he should have spent his time in WASHINGTON being involved in it or at least getting INFORMED (it will affect him once hes ELECTED LOL).
Politics as old from the man of CHANGE? HUH? Truly sad, people are still clinging to this empty ‘hope!’.
Further I love the logic of the Obama lovers McCain is an ‘idiot’ ‘old’ ‘evil’ umm but I dont know any issues or what was discussed during the debate (truly followers of Obama, as he didnt DISCUSS any issues or take a STANCE!)
Comment by - - September 27, 2008 at 2:20 am
I suppose McCain enjoys torture, because he just sanctioned a nationally televised tush-kicking… consequently, he will not be able to lift it past his shoulders.
Comment by Natalie - September 27, 2008 at 2:20 am
I agree with several of the comments made above. Overall, I would give Obama a slight edge in the quality of his answers. But he wins by a landslide in demeanor. I found McCain’s tone and body language utterly offensive and disrespectful. The American President needs to be a statesman. John McCain showed himself to be a far lesser figure than that.
Comment by Jim in Santa Cruz - September 27, 2008 at 2:20 am
Both scored. I liked McCain’s warmth but his overall economic plans are weaker. Obama did well in his articulations. Will go for Obama here.
Comment by Don from Calif - September 27, 2008 at 2:21 am
Is there a spare bed in some nursing home in Arizona? McCain needs prolonged rest. His choice of Sarah Palin as a potential President revealed his judgment.
Comment by Jay - September 27, 2008 at 2:21 am
If you were Ahmadinejhad, or Chavez, or Dear Leader, and you watched the debate, who would you be more afraid of? Your answer is the person we should choose as President.
Comment by Orin A - September 27, 2008 at 2:22 am
McCain proves he’s out of touch in spending, what with his corny “freeze” idea pulled out of nowhere, and at best in foreign policy pulled even with Obama. Gaffes of his on Georgia and Iran weaken his image. By contrast, Obama stayed calm through the entire debate, didn’t stumble over words or names, and stayed on point the whole night. Sorry, but John’s erratic campaign pushes in the last week meant he really didn’t come into the debate with a message at all.
McCain lost, that’s pretty much all there is to it.
Comment by Andrew - September 27, 2008 at 2:22 am
McCain won… Obama lost his cool, appeared angry, and interrupted McCain numerous times, even to the point of talking over McCain while McCain still had the floor. Very disrespectful and not at all presidential. On the most important issues Obama made sure others knew that “John and I agree”… however whenever McCain brought an issue around to a “gotcha” moment for Obama, Obama declared “Let’s move on” which he did three times.
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This is an “old bull” vs “young bull” duel; the choice is experience and known vs inexperience and unknown. I vote McCain… he’s been down this road many times.
Comment by Worth watching - September 27, 2008 at 2:23 am
@ 2:19, yes judge on eye movement, or if someone has a moustach! Because clearly you cannot analyze or comprehend issues/anything deeper :) Typical Obama supporter.
How do you feel about Obama’s ‘father figure’? He has a far more sinister stare during sermons denouncing America.
Comment by Classic - September 27, 2008 at 2:23 am
“I give the win to Obama. I feel like it was close to being a tie, but given McCain’s angry tone and disrespectful attitude I feel like Obama proved he would be a better President.”
We saw two different debates. Obama was the one who was often trying to interupt, snicker, called him John (and Tom??)instead of Senator and looked visibly angry at times. Crusty ‘ol McCain made Mr. 0 look like he had missed a nap.
Kuddos to Barry though for having fewer uhhs, errs and umms than I expected.
Comment by emaughan - September 27, 2008 at 2:23 am
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/17/mccains-pow-record-attacked/
Comment by James Mitchell - September 27, 2008 at 2:24 am
mccain won !!!
he demonstrated knowlede and understanding. as opposed to obama blowing hot air
Comment by vj - September 27, 2008 at 2:24 am
Don from Calif - September 27, 2008 at 2:21 am
Can you explain those economic plans please? Last I checked OBAMA wouldnt offer an opinion on the Bailout- nor a clear breakdown of his plan yet! ID LOVE to know it as would MOST of AMERICA. I guess he’ll vote PRESENT on the Bailout LOL
Comment by - - September 27, 2008 at 2:25 am
Orin A - the one that can chew gum and campaign at the same time. Sorry, but the transparent political moves this week and McCain’s sorry presentation tonight is going to lose voters for him. In every way this was his debate to lose, and he did.
Comment by Andrew - September 27, 2008 at 2:25 am
“Johnnie boy” may have gotten Pakistan’s new leader’s name wrong, but John McCain has a much better grasp of the “facts on the ground” in Afghanistan/Pakistan than Obama will have if he spends the next twenty years studying it.
Comment by Wisconsin Mike - September 27, 2008 at 2:26 am
i am an independent and i lean towards McCain. obama did not do anything yet to prove that he can be president. he has no grasp of the issues facing the USA at this dire times.
presidency is not for trainees.
Comment by norman main - September 27, 2008 at 2:26 am
Obama won. He can see beyond just one issue towards the big picture, and we are facing ‘big picture’ problems. We live in an increasingly smaller world, and every action or inaction has a larger global effect. I don’t think McCain “understands THAT.” I think he serves our country best as a Senator where he can put his tenacious energy to use tackling one issue at a time.
Comment by Katrina - September 27, 2008 at 2:26 am
I learned McCain will balance the budget by cutting 18 billion in earmarks and by aggressively cutting taxes and continuing to pursue the war in Iraq. Obama wins, barely; at least didn’t pretend he would cut the budget with tax cuts.
And I learned the key to success with Iran and North Korea is to not talk with them because they have nukes but we need to recycle nuke material.
Finally, being presidential is to sneering at your opponent’s youth and talk about all the heads of state that you did talk to at some point (not to Iran and North Korea).
Finally McCain thinks Iraq was a jolly good idea and we “won” the war by supporting Petraus (I didn’t catch when we can withdraw our victorious troops and stop spending 200 billion a year off budget on Iraq). Vietnam taught him to “strategize.” OK
Comment by RJ - September 27, 2008 at 2:27 am
“and Obama’s saying Kissinger agrees with Obama’s stand on Iran was true.”
From The Weekly Standard:
“Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: “Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality.”
Comment by ThatGayConservative - September 27, 2008 at 2:28 am
I was VERY embarrassed for Obama. He was clearly out of his pay grade.
Comment by mary - September 27, 2008 at 2:28 am
Neither Obama nor mcCain opined on the Bailout Plan, so whats the question here?
Comment by NY - September 27, 2008 at 2:29 am
As someone who worked overseas fo 15 yrs, the world is a lot smaller than one would think. Obama just doesnt get it…
Comment by Bill - September 27, 2008 at 2:29 am
Don - Obama has made it clear that pulling presidential politics into the bailout discussion is too risky, with the funds of many Americans at stake. He resisted McCain’s attempt to politicize something (McCain hasn’t offered anything better, or endorsed anything himself, you’d note), the most he did was hold up the discussions enough for House Republicans to screw up what the Senate Republicans, Bush Administration, the Fed and the Democrats in Congress were working on, and by doing so caught the GOP is a twist where it can’t chew out it’s own without undermining the presidential race. POLITICS FIRST, apparently. Obama made more statements at the meeting they got called in for, for the original bailout compromise, and McCain sat in silence. Great leadership there.
Comment by TOO - September 27, 2008 at 2:30 am
Katrina can you explain what Obama’s big picture is on our current economic situation? I can tell you McCains - i GUARANTEE you cannot tell me Obama’s - why? he wont tell it ’shhs its a secret’. Thats real big picture!
RJ you should look it up, Clintons own econ advisers acknowledged tax cuts were key to economic growth and in the 80’s government income doubled- to bad spending went up faster.
Comment by Cali Jam - September 27, 2008 at 2:31 am
they’re both loser’s
vote for pedro!!!
Comment by Napoleon - September 27, 2008 at 2:31 am
If you are yourself and watched the debate, who is more likely to go to war, turn friends into enemies and turn the country into a quasi police state?
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Your answer is the person we should not choose as President
Comment by Urin Al - September 27, 2008 at 2:32 am
McCain’s whole schtick was “Obama doesn’t understand that [insert something either not necessarally true, or even something completely wrong here]” At least he managed to sound coherent so that’s a step up from Bush.
Comment by elc - September 27, 2008 at 2:32 am
TOO, to bad we were not privy to those great comments from Obama. Pity he wouldn’t share any at the debate, or any other time! No one has a CLUE what he feels about the current situation!
Comment by - - September 27, 2008 at 2:33 am
Obama is really about the big picture, thats why he voted for the ‘bridge to nowhere’ instead of funneling the money to KATRINA victims. OH was that proposed by a Republican, and who’s the Mayor who failed Katrina, still elected- and AT the DNC supporting Obama.
Comment by No thanks to empty lies - September 27, 2008 at 2:35 am
Sen Obama was warm, open and a diplomat. His knowledge is great and he has the confidence to admit he agrees with some of Sen McCains ideas. That’s refreshing. McC came off as an angry old man who lives off his past accomplishments, but has nothing new to offer to the future. Do you want a pres who pushes the red button & then wonders if that was the thing to do? Then by all means vote for that eratic old man.
Comment by Kathy - September 27, 2008 at 2:36 am
talibans looking for a safe haven in the usa know that obama will provide it. obama is a spy supporting the terrorists
Comment by nottoday - September 27, 2008 at 2:38 am
Obama had the answers and could look McCain in the eye. Obama seemed more in command of the facts.
Comment by Independent - September 27, 2008 at 2:39 am
Obama was rude in his manner when he kept interrupting McCain.
Comment by Mac - September 27, 2008 at 2:40 am
elc- They were in the front page article on CNN.com about the meeting. How about we actually go outside into the real world and do some reading?
Comment by TOO - September 27, 2008 at 2:41 am
Not even close. Good to see the old master school the green wannabe.
One candidate knew what he was talking about and showed it in the depth, cogency, and detail of his remarks.
The other knew some facts intellectually, not based on anything he has experienced.
The opportunistic kid schooled by the grownup. How sweet it is.
Comment by DW - September 27, 2008 at 2:42 am
Obama was right the war in Iraq was wrong. That means the surge issue is really a lot less valid. Obama wins that argument. Obama’s proposed policy’s are for more regulation in regards to the economy. If we had utilized this policy over that last 8 years, we wouldn’t be in this financial mess. McCain said the day Leman Brothers declared bankrupcy that the funadementals of the ecomony were strong. He opposed govt interference. 2 days later he flip-flops. Clear winner on the economy goes to Obama. I don’t see how these 2 HUGE issues can be sliced any other way. Obama was right, and McCain was wrong. BTW, I voted for 2 Republican Presidents. unless something dramatically changes, I’m voting for the guy who got the 2 most critical events in recent histury correct, Obama.
Comment by Undecided - September 27, 2008 at 2:44 am
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?…
MCCAIN
66% 126,340
OBAMA
32% 61,556
NEITHER
2% 4,356
Comment by two_thirds - September 27, 2008 at 2:45 am
I wonder what world some of these people declaring McCain the winner in these comments come from. Truly through the looking glass here tonight it seems.
Comment by Andy - September 27, 2008 at 2:46 am
Apparently McCain thinks he can win the Presidency by being condescending and insulting. That’s what he calls Leadership? Count me out!
Comment by Jefferson - September 27, 2008 at 2:49 am
Ah, because Drudge is a real news source, right? The poll at the top of this page, and most others in the country, tell you who won tonight’s debate. But keep posting them, maybe that’ll change things. Yup.
Comment by Fair and Balanced - September 27, 2008 at 2:49 am
every thing is in gods hands he knows what we need befor we wake up
Comment by edward - September 27, 2008 at 2:52 am
McCain clearly won. Obama comes off as niave and unclear. McCain as wise and thoughtful. Obama shills must be altering the poll and comments in this area.
Comment by Mo - September 27, 2008 at 2:52 am
Obama 1 McCain 0
Two more to go.
Comment by Ted M. Garza - September 27, 2008 at 2:53 am
A: those who control the media wins
Q: what is the fairness doctrine
Comment by un-Fair and un-Balanced - September 27, 2008 at 2:54 am
As a conservative Republican, I have to hand this round to Obama. McCain misrepresented Obama’s positions and voting record repeatedly (not unlike the blatant lies continually aired by McCain-Palin in ads here in Colorado), while not once acknowledging the common ground that they shared. Obama was on the offensive, but he took pains to point out areas where he and McCain agreed–that’s classy presidential behavior. McCain’s sneering, condescending, self-important attacks are embarrassing at best.
While I admired some of the stands taken by McCain the Senator, McCain the Candidate has done a complete 180 on key issues (i.e. torture, off-shore drilling, re-regulation, taxes). I cannot respect a man who turns on his own guiding philosophies purely for the sake of political expediency.
Comment by Michael from Colorado - September 27, 2008 at 2:55 am
McCain has been training his whole career to be President; Obama has been campaiging his whole career to be President. Obama was smoother, glibber; but McCain has the experience. Don’t be fooled by superficialities. Obama will be ready in 8 years, but McCain is ready to go into battle now.
Comment by JB - September 27, 2008 at 2:55 am
Clearly MoveOn has instructed its members to post a bunch of comments on these boards indicating a strong bias for Obama and against McCain. Any objective viewer would say it was fairly even, with McCain trumping Obama on demonstrating experience.
Comment by Eric - September 27, 2008 at 2:58 am
Communism has only killed 100 million people. Let’s give it another chance!
Comment by socialist_slayer - September 27, 2008 at 2:58 am
McCain won from his heart, Obama from his smooth tongue.
Who do I trust at the wheel? The heart
Comment by LB From Ohio - September 27, 2008 at 3:00 am
I “voted” in the unofficial CNN poll this evening, twice giving Barack Obama and “F”, only to be informed by the site that I had voted an “A” for Obama (and Obama is a clear favorite in their poll.) It certainly makes this registered democrat question not only the veracity of the poll in question, but also the fairness and political bias of CNN. I have posted a similar comment to CNN’s site. Let’s see if it gets posted. Hmmmm….
Comment by Interested and Undecided American - September 27, 2008 at 3:01 am
You are one reason education and learning about racism should be mandatory before being allowed to vote. You are pathetic.
Comment by Nottoday Ha - September 27, 2008 at 3:01 am
McCain was trying to praise his experience and knowledge of foreign relations. But did what he knows made it any good for Americans (the war in Iraq)? How about the financial crisis?
McCain should be better off not talking about good judgement… He got it wrong so many times.
Comment by insa - September 27, 2008 at 3:03 am
Johnnie boy not only got the Pakistan’s President’s name wrong, he was referring to Ahmedeenjad as Akmedeenjad…
next he will call Bush…Tush!!!
Comment by Rakhi Sharma - September 27, 2008 at 3:04 am
It’s now past midnight in Kalifornia. Everyone’s tofu just turned into pumpkin. Brain must be melting . . . . Must get . . .
Comment by socialist_slayer - September 27, 2008 at 3:05 am
Obama won poised and no gaffs on what is his weakest aspect part of the candidacy.
McCain’s best shot at gaining ground in debate was tonight. While he had many details, he looked like an angry curmudgeon at points.
Next week, the VP interview could really be a show. Conservatives fear this, knowing she struggled during a mere interview the Kuric and is at risk of Biden really getting her tangled up.
Comment by Insert name here - September 27, 2008 at 3:06 am
WELL USED TO BE…You bringing up race just like Obama has….lol….You leberals make me laugh….
Comment by Kevin - September 27, 2008 at 3:09 am
Big win for Obama tonight. I think some of the really, really die-hard ‘na-na-na-na-na I can’t hear you’ republicans are going to act as though this favorable outcome for Obama is some sort of liberal conspiracy, especially as evidenced by the comments on here. Get over it. Reality isn’t fair. Two arguments are not somehow equal by virtue of the fact they are framed together. McCain lost.
Comment by VA resident - September 27, 2008 at 3:09 am
McCain is a follower and Obama is a leader. McCain was clearly the loser in this debate. Anyone who saw otherwise is in denial.
Obama 08!
Comment by Jim - September 27, 2008 at 3:10 am
How is it possible, I can vote three times on this page ?? The vote unfortunately is prone to manipulation and I do not trust its content any longer. Is that another populist Murdoch style on a (formerly) serious newspaper ?
Comment by Holger - September 27, 2008 at 3:11 am
What bother me the most was McCain’s body language. He didn’t speak directly to Obama. He was looking down most of the time and grinning. And then there was a time when I felt like he was giving a history lesson. He was talking more about what he had done then it the past then what he was planning to do in the future. Obama didn’t do any better. But it was more like the Past Vs. Future. And I’m looking towards the future.
Comment by Sara - September 27, 2008 at 3:12 am
Senator Obama clearly won. He was very sharp, and stated his positions well. Obama definitely understand the Economy, and cares about the plight of the American people. Senator McCain did well explaining some of his Foreign Policy positions, but Obama was good too. McCain needed to give a phenomenal performance, but he didn’t. Senator McCain was sometimes condescending in his remarks, He seemed afraid to look at or recognize Senator Obama. McCain presents himself as a grumpy, OLDer “former Maverick”. Obama’s posture was mostly calm and collected. Senator McCain often spoke in a condescending tone towards Obama. It makes Senator McCain seem even older! We know that McCain knows world leaders, and has obviously worked in the Senate for over 26 years. So has Joe Biden.
Comment by Sonia - September 27, 2008 at 3:12 am
McCain showed a more commanding presence than Obama. Clearly McCain demonstrated more experience with global issues as opposed to a more academic approach from Obama. McCain’s knowledge and experience with a turbulent and threatening world scene trump Obama’s desire for a ‘one world’ approach based on good intentions.
Comment by Manhattan Beach Mark - September 27, 2008 at 3:13 am
A question for all my fellow patriots: Does spending freeze = taxation - representation?
Comment by justathought - September 27, 2008 at 3:13 am
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?…
MCCAIN
66% 128,468
OBAMA
32% 63,199
NEITHER
2% 4,442
Total Votes: 196,109
Comment by two_thirds - September 27, 2008 at 3:13 am
Obama clearly one in categories style, structure, and scope of concrete measures. Mc Cain exploits too few repetitive topics, which are too narrow for a future President. However, Obama doesn’t drive home (yet) all of his messages in a simple and appealing manner for the masses.
Comment by Holger - September 27, 2008 at 3:14 am
I find it amusing that none of the Liberal posters on here tonight have no concern with how drastically Obama has chanded his stances on EVERYTHING since early in the primary… A true wold in sheeps clothing, pandering to the middle now instead of the far left. This man scares the living daylights out of me. He will say(lie) what ever he thinks the largest audience present wants to hear. Scary, very scary.
Comment by Styles - September 27, 2008 at 3:16 am
Stupid comments that are this short should be deleted! McCain 08!
Comment by Andrew T. - September 27, 2008 at 3:17 am
Could Osama be claiming that Iraq is central to his ‘Jihad’ to keep us occupied there while he rebuilds in Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Comment by justathought - September 27, 2008 at 3:17 am
Holger - The debate was not a style and fashion contest nor a spelling bee.
Comment by frog_legs_taste_like_chicken - September 27, 2008 at 3:18 am
THIS POLL AND COMMENT BOARD IS A SHAM. You can vote hundreds of times and post as many comments with as many names as you want. FRAUD!
Comment by Mo - September 27, 2008 at 3:18 am
McCain clearly beat Obama in this debate. McCain speaks from experience, educated many of us on the history of various crises — and knows many foreign leader personally from having paid multiple issues to their countries. Obama needs a lot more foreign policy experience before he is ready to serve as commander in chief!
Comment by Brett - September 27, 2008 at 3:18 am
Oh wow, adding 4000 votes to McCain by abusing stylesheets; that’s a classy move there.
Comment by GG right-wingers - September 27, 2008 at 3:19 am
Based on everything I read and saw prior, I thought Obama would be an easy winner in tonight’s debate. I also expected McCain to be cranky and a curmudgeon. I was surprised. McCain seemed far more composed and articulate than expected. Frankly, I was surprised how often Obama was saying something to the effect that “I agree with John.” If they’re both willing to challenge the status quo and reach across party lines, I think I’m beginning to lean toward the guy with greater experience.
Comment by Still deciding - September 27, 2008 at 3:20 am
Styles - What bizzaro world are you living in? Obama hasn’t changed stances at all since he started campaigning, or before. McCain’s done a 180 on practically everything.
Comment by TOO - September 27, 2008 at 3:20 am
Honestly, as a conservative, will vote for Obama.
Comment by JP - September 27, 2008 at 3:21 am
Unfortunately, McCain had already lost me with one of the least “presidential” decisions in American history: the choice of a supremely unqualified running mate. Everyone should read Sam Harris’s commentary on Palin in the latest issue of Newsweek.
Comment by DavidinNV - September 27, 2008 at 3:21 am
Obama was hasty, impatient,and remain on conceptual level while McCain showed much more substance through the details he gave. McCain won clearly.
Comment by Jennifer - September 27, 2008 at 3:22 am
it was an embarrasing distraction the number of times Obama had to correct McCain’s inaccurat fact sprewing. Why all the lies and accusations, they made McCain look bad. This was not the time for playground bullying…I would have preferred he played fair and at least give the appearance of an upstanding guy rather than a cheat. wishful thinking I guess.
Comment by carlea - September 27, 2008 at 3:22 am
If I may retort. This just turned into a CSS stylesheet war. Oh joy, yea!
Comment by frog_legs_taste_like_chicken - September 27, 2008 at 3:23 am
McCain = more of the same. Obama = intelligence, integrity, judgement and leadership.
Comment by Samantha - September 27, 2008 at 3:23 am
Hey Chuck Renaud, better check your facts from the horse’s mouth. Kissinger issued a statment after the debate saying that he does NOT recomend direct Presidential talks with Iran and that Obama mis quoted him. Yet another lefty lie…
Comment by Voice of reason - September 27, 2008 at 3:24 am
Mac,
All Debators interrupt. It’s like stealing the ball in “basketball”. Obama’s timing was a ‘lil off a couple of times when he interrupted, but he’s clearly not rude. His overall behavior during the debate was statesman like.
Comment by Sonia - September 27, 2008 at 3:25 am
Obama is not real. Can’t vote for him. Better the devil you know..
Comment by mike - September 27, 2008 at 3:26 am
Ok, seriously.
I do not care much for comments that are short and contain no substance at all.
Being an Obama supporter, I much more respect a McCain supporter who can tell me what he is thinking and his reasons for thinking what he’s thinking in a civilized, well thought out manner than an Obama supporter with half a brain yelling out about how McCain is old and a fuddy-duddy and how he’s a bumbling fool.
We need to be focused on the issues.
These comment boards have been reduced to an instant message-like medium of back and forth non-sense.
I supposed there is nothing one can personally do about this.
It’s pathetic.
Comment by Andrew T. - September 27, 2008 at 3:26 am
there are tens of polls on who won. the results vary. no surprise the WSJ has mccain as a winner, its the most conservative, republican, paper ever published. in most national polls that represent the “majority” of americans, Obama is declared as winner.
Comment by carlea - September 27, 2008 at 3:27 am
TOO, you ae a moran. I suggest you look at some of Obama’s early speaches and then take the foot out of your mouth.
Comment by Me TOO - September 27, 2008 at 3:27 am
Obama clearly does not have a clue on foreign policy and has no excuse for not having held a single hearing on the only committee he has chaired in federal government! However… Obama’s biggest mistake was angering Henry Kissinger by distorting his views on Iran. Henry Kissinger will now be all over the air-waves now — and Obama deserves the criticism he receives for yet another lie on his part!
Comment by Brett - September 27, 2008 at 3:28 am
A liberal for my entire adult political life - in this dangerous world, I’m voting for McCain.
Comment by MB - September 27, 2008 at 3:28 am
Too — you ain’t got a clue!
Comment by Brett - September 27, 2008 at 3:29 am
Carlea - this poll is currently being abused by parties using, well, the weaknesses in it’s sloppy coding. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ has most of the scientific polls available, as they come online.
Comment by Science! - September 27, 2008 at 3:29 am
McCain came across as a grumpy old man. Obama’s oratory talents are second to none. Obama is the only intelligent choice.
Comment by carlea - September 27, 2008 at 3:30 am
Me TOO “Moran?” Oh wow. How far back am I going to have to go to get to his “early speeches that have different content?” 1995 or earlier? I have read his speeches. I’ve read McCain’s, too. Get off the blogs and do some fact-checking yourself.
Comment by Anonymous - September 27, 2008 at 3:31 am
I just ate my 2nd bowl of Kashi and still cant make friends. Vote McCain ‘08
Comment by Kalifornia_Dreamin - September 27, 2008 at 3:31 am
Obama is a radical socialist. For someone who escaped a communist country to come to the US, voting for Obama is like voting for Fidel Castro. John is a much better choice. USA is #1. Obama thinks otherwise.
Comment by GQ - September 27, 2008 at 3:32 am
My favorite moment was when McCain said something about when he returned from prison…hope some people who have not heard his POW stories don’t think he was in the slammer.
And by the way…has anyone ever verified his “I won’t go until we all go story”. I have always found it odd a prisoner could be allowed to stay in prison when his captors wanted to release him.
Comment by Michelle - September 27, 2008 at 3:33 am
Funny thing, Ralph Nader came to my university and spoke today to a room of about 40 supporters at 2pm. In the evening students gathered to watch the debates in a large classroom, at least 100 of us. In a real democracy, where every legitimate candidate (as determined by the states who print the ballots) was given a chance to speak, Hillary and Nader would be surging ahead tonight after Obama’s embarrassing performance. In our two-party pseudodemocracy, though, the left-wingers have to choose between Obama or their own psychological collapse. I am coming to agree with the 3rd party guys that we need truly open elections with run-off votes between the two biggest winners. Without that you get a whole host of bizarre phenomena like what you see in the comments from the lefties here.
Comment by Joe Clark again - September 27, 2008 at 3:33 am
The Poll has been gamed - for 4-5 hours the result was clear and then it suddenly changed. I wonder why from Downunder! David.
Comment by David More - September 27, 2008 at 3:34 am
Obama won clearly. I only wish Obama had mentioned that we started paying the Sunis not to attack us, that’s how successful the surge really was.
Comment by bobbie1988 - September 27, 2008 at 3:35 am
MB, you are a poser. no true liberal would vote mccain…ever.
Comment by carlea - September 27, 2008 at 3:35 am
The reason why Obama made several comments agreeing with McCain was to come across as reaching across the aisle. The same reason why he actually LOOKED at his opponent. McCain did not look at Obama once. If you honestly think McCain won - then I at least take my hat off to you for being a stout Republican. Obama won by a small margin. This was all he needed in Foreign Policy Debate. Just wait for the other Debates. Independents will now be much more secure with Obama. End of story.
Comment by Bob from California - September 27, 2008 at 3:36 am
Barracko Bama was a sniveling spoiled child. If he acted the way, he acted tonight at the debate with Putin he would wind up in a Gulag.
Comment by Billgls - September 27, 2008 at 3:37 am
The debate wasn’t even close. This is a dangerous world — and it sure would be nice to have a president who undertands the difference between a military tactic and a strategy. It’s official… I will be voting for a republican presidential candidate for the fist time in my life. Go McCain!
Comment by Julie Yang - September 27, 2008 at 3:38 am
What is with Obama’s arrogant little smile/smirk? He seems to have lost all humility…
Comment by Tasha - September 27, 2008 at 3:41 am
This poll is a joke… the numbers are changing way too quickly to be accurate!
Comment by Tainted Poll - September 27, 2008 at 3:43 am
I can not belive this. Obama says he will not raise taxers for the middle class. Only people who make above 250 grand, cpaital gains tax and dividend tax. People who retire, which will be baby boomers need that money. They live of dividends and their IRA’s. I am pretty sure they don’t make 250 grand a year and are being taxed. THIS GUY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT. SNAP OUT OF IT.
Comment by Anonymous - September 27, 2008 at 3:43 am
I don’t understand Wall Street Journal readers, (who I thought would be Capitalist, that respect and understand why the free market is the best economic system that there has ever been) would support a Marxist malcontent (Obama) ? Don’t you understand that every socialist/Marxist country that has existed, has self imploded because Marxism makes everyone poor, slaves of the state? And that’s what we’ll be with an Obama presidency. But you don’t care because you’re Savior has arrived, Obamamessiah. Anyways McCain won the debate because he looked like a confident leader, compared to Obama’s manchild.
Comment by Tim - September 27, 2008 at 3:45 am
Bob from California, your opine is exactly what’s expected from the most far left state outside the old USSR
Comment by Better things to do, call if you need me - September 27, 2008 at 3:48 am
McCain clearly won. Not only did McCain point out that Obama was lying and trying to distort the truth about what Kissinger said, but he also pointed out many other weaknesses in Obama’s inexperience. Barack Obama’s campaign came out and criticized McCain for telling stories that are 20 years old to prove his experience. They said that he sounded “old” in doing this. This just proves how ignorant Obama supporters are because they clearly overlook the fact that being Commander in Chief requires knowledge of the dangers that America faces on foreign fronts. They don’t understand that countries have historical relations together and that foreign relations lead to foreign policies.
Comment by YW - September 27, 2008 at 3:51 am
Why would anyone want another 4 years of Bush? McCain is Bush whatever he says. During his two terms, Bush has managed to bankrupt the US, lie consistently and make Americans the most hated people on the planet.
Comment by A Concerned Human Being - September 27, 2008 at 3:54 am
McCain is optimistic, positive, didn’t jump at the first administration proposal, more careful, and not interested in being the first. The question always is, “Who exercises better judgment, not who sounds better.”
Comment by vangasan - September 27, 2008 at 3:58 am
Some of you people are funny. You think just because you and this Obama choose to say that Senator McCain will simply be another President Bush this makes it so. How childish! There is a vast difference in these two men. Another thing, President Bush has not bankrupted this country! Some of you are so clueless, and it makes your liberal leaders very happy. Smarten up, folks!
Comment by Jane Palmer - September 27, 2008 at 4:06 am
Vangasan - How about we add a few more adjectives? Like “impulsive, irrational, erratic, and more willing to put politics in front of the good of his country?” McCain doesn’t exercise good judgment, and it’s obvious now that he doesn’t sound better.
Obama proved that he was able to keep his head in a crisis. McCain jumped the gun, rode in trying to get his name stamped on it, and screwed the whole pooch before it even got off the ground. Good judgment? I don’t think so.
Comment by Anon - September 27, 2008 at 4:08 am
Obama needs to give it up already. He needs to lose and go away.
Comment by Texan - September 27, 2008 at 4:09 am
How can McCain rant against pork barrel spending and then pick Palin as a running mate?
Comment by Kimberly - September 27, 2008 at 4:16 am
McCain won. He summary of positions on many issues, and his discussion of his voting record clearly showed he is not a “Bush” Republican. He exposed Obama’s flip/flop on earmarks. McCain clearly has a better handle on geopolitical issues. His approach on energy issues is much more pragmatic than Obama’s “pie in the sky” alternate energy solutions. (To be clear, I agree with Obama the US must put “crash program” efforts into alternate energy. However, alternate energy alone will come nowhere close to providing energy independence in 10 years.) McCain must do a better job of explaining why Obama’s plan to raise income taxex on only the upper 5% is financially not realistic.
Comment by Augie - September 27, 2008 at 4:17 am
Concerned Human Being- Bush is not as powerful as you give him credit for. The US is not bankrupt. If you want to see bankrupt, go to a third world country. No other country,and I mean no other country, would have the strength to weather the financial troubles that we are in (caused by greedy bankers/lenders/realtors/speculators, and homeowners who should be renters, not Bush-he couldn’t do it) We will get through this fine with or without the bail out plan. Any other country with this kind of troubles would collapse dead economically.
Comment by GQ - September 27, 2008 at 4:19 am
Where was the substance in Obama’s argument tonight? Discussing his father from Kenya? Obama might have just as well replied to every question with his usual mantra of “yes we can.” As investors, does it make sense to elect someone who wants to raise our capital gains taxes and take away our profits? He misleads us by saying he’ll give 95% of us tax cuts; as his plan calls from increasing taxes whom he considers “rich” and redistributing wealth to “lower income Americans.” That’s a tax increase.Elect Obama and you elect European-style Socialism. Shame on the rest of us who still believe that hard work bring success and wealth, not the federal government. With Obama once you become wealthy it’s YOUR responsibility to give up your wealth. Then what is the point of investing at all?
Comment by Edward McLain - September 27, 2008 at 4:21 am
McCain babbled incoherently and dropped names in lieu of having a point or a plan. Obama exuded Presidential presence.
Comment by Rey Fox - September 27, 2008 at 4:23 am
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Comment by The WSJ doesn't know how to set up internet polls - September 27, 2008 at 4:23 am
However I’m no socialist at all I have to say it’s getting very irritating to see some so called “middle class” Americans use the word socialist to end all discussions because it supposed to be “un-American”. At this moment the USA is debating about how to spend 700billion dollar of support (to their failed capitalist gone extreme society.) This after AIG (85b!),Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac,… bail-outs/ nationalisations makes your country much more “socialist” than Hugo Chavez’ Venezuela. But not being “socialist” which non-socialist presidential candidate (not Mcain or Obama off course!) do you plan to vote for?
Comment by the old continent - September 27, 2008 at 4:25 am
McCain definately won. Obama kept trying to interrupt and make comments on everything that McCain said. You could see him in the back ground like a small child shaking his head. Obama has no class and his statements are just air no substance
Comment by JSeal - September 27, 2008 at 4:26 am
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Comment by The WSJ doesn't know how to set up internet polls - September 27, 2008 at 4:28 am
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Comment by The WSJ doesn't know how to set up internet polls - September 27, 2008 at 4:31 am
Please do not delete my above posts. I am only trying to point out that what the Wall Street Journal (a publication I greatly enjoy) is managing to spread false information, be it purposely or not by ****not properly setting up the above poll to allow each registered SUBSCRIBER one vote**** Thanks in advance. I trust you will correct the polls results or at least reset w/ the correct checks in place. ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Comment by The WSJ doesn't know how to set up internet polls - September 27, 2008 at 4:33 am
I just love the comment that Obama won because he was taller. Let’s vote for the taller, better looking candidate - no wonder I’m terrified. Obama is cold and condescending - his way or no way - and I don’t like his way. Old Chicago politics at its best. And really have any of you listened to the rhetoric and Rev Wright that he supported for years.
Comment by Taller - September 27, 2008 at 4:34 am
My grandmother used to say that experience is often a lot of practice doing badly. My eyes used to glaze over when a job applicant would claim that he or she was qualified because he or she had been performing a function for a long time and never mention what his or her victories had been. A maverick is shorthand for someone who cannot build a consensus.Has anyone asked John McCain what his victories have been other than survival for a long time? In the legislative process or in the leadership role being “Miss Congeniality” is often highly useful. Perhaps John McCain has never played a team sport. Loyalties in those are developed by those who put the team first. Somehow mavericks never get the ball for the last shot or have someone pick off the last tackler for them.
Comment by Donald Bright - September 27, 2008 at 4:37 am
Urban from France
Mc Cain comments about Irak and Iran scare me.
At the botton of the financial shake up is the cost of Irak war 590.000 billions hitherto.Almost as much as Bush is asking the Congress to approve.
America open your eyes
Comment by abmu@neuf.fr - September 27, 2008 at 4:39 am
I am amazed that anyone would think that Bush could bankrupt the country by himself do you relize that we have a democratic congress. Bush is the leader but…..they dont listen to him they fight him all the way…and I would think that the bankers and CEOs of the financial instutions had more to do with it…giving 300,000 loans to 30,000 incomes
Comment by jseal - September 27, 2008 at 4:40 am
Keeping liquidity in the markets in order to prevent economic collapse is not socialism. However trying to prevent people from building their own money supply and over taxing one group and redistributing income to another income group is socialism. The Obama Democrats HATE the idea of becoming rich because how dare people want to keep more of their own money? Why are you irritated with persons exposing Senator Obama for what he really is, a socialist do not make sense. It’s true so why dispute it? If that’s what your party wants why get irritated? “Free” health care and money for everyone except the evil rich!
Comment by Responding to old continent - September 27, 2008 at 4:43 am
If a man can’t look you in the eye, it’s a bad sign. Isn’t that what liars do?
The sneers, the hunchy rabbit-bite snort, the lack of eye contact, all were unpresidential.
Barack Obama won the debate. John McCain did his best to demonstrate he belonged back in the Senate to close out his career.
Comment by Leo Cassidy - September 27, 2008 at 4:44 am
It was a tie. Obama came off like the lawyer he is and McCain came off like an old man. Obama clearly needs to travel and see the word. He needs more life experience. He needs to do more community organizing in more places, maybe in North Korea? Maybe Obama can organize some grief counseling for all the white liberal guilt out there? I plan on voting for Johnny Mac.
Comment by James Hat - September 27, 2008 at 4:49 am
If you believe Sarah has no experience to be a VP, how can Obama be a president when he has less experienve than Sarah?
It puzzled me. How can so many people buy into Obama’s qualification? People with good education would understand this. In my workplace only people with less education support Obama. That is the end of the story. God bless USA.
Comment by Andrew - September 27, 2008 at 4:51 am
Obama came off clearly as the person you would want to have managing our foreign policy. McCain seemed stuck on the surge as the key element of our entire agenda abroad. Our next president will need to begin by mending fences abroad and building a consensus with our allied about how to solve some the most nagging social and political issues. At times McCain sounded a bit like Teddy Roosevelt–that the answer to all of our problems was aggressive military posturing…
Comment by Brian from Kentucky - September 27, 2008 at 4:51 am
McCain won by a landslide. I think some of the polls are done by calling districts that are traditionally democratic, which makes them entirely un-scientific. Network bias proves this to be very possible. If who “won” the debate is based on the most knowledgeable, competent person to lead the greatest nation on earth…The answer is clear: John McCain. Obama was jittery, and rude with continuous interruptions, and nearly hostile at times. John McCain was clear, precise, substantive, and direct with his answers. One point he made very clear: He is the one who works with democrats and republicans - Obama does not, proved with his 97% “left” voting record. How do you trust a guy who says he will unite democrats and republicans but his record proves he doesn’t do that? Obama is scary: It is proved he changes positions just to try to get elected. McCain is solid as a rock, and the ONLY candidate we can trust to lead this nation.
Comment by John Locke - September 27, 2008 at 4:52 am
To - The WSJ doesn’t know how to set up internet polls - you don’t know how the technology is set up. They’re not clicking away mindlessly, and the whole mess started earlier tonight when someone added 4000 votes to McCain in one go. It’s abusing the code, yes, but this poll wasn’t scientific to begin with.
Comment by Anon - September 27, 2008 at 4:58 am
Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing. John McCain is a more seasoned candidate in my own opinion. Mr. McCain is correct in my opinion as to the idea of bringing back business to the U.S. Companies are always looking at how they can save money, just like anyone else. Why pay someone $50/hr if you can relocate finding laborers at $10/hr. At the same time, why pay so much in taxes. This does cut into the companies profits where they cannot aford to hire any additional people for the company. The only thing that I don’t like, personally, is when congress personnel who we voted for can vote to give them selves a pay raise, but the general public can’t get a raise in the minimum wage. Additionally, at least John McCain visits with the soldiers when he travels to hostile areas, as a caring leader
Comment by Austin - September 27, 2008 at 5:02 am
Palin? Experience? HA. I live in a county with a larger population then the state she’s “governing.” I for one don’t believe that “bad experience” is better than “no experience,” even if I believe Obama lacked it. He doesn’t, he proved that last night. McCain lost this by virtue of being inconsistent, rude, and spacy. His actions over the past 8 months have shown that he’s willing to flip-flop on topics in order to gain political points. And that’s not even close to his bald-faced lying (ex: the Romney debate). McCain came across as angry, rude, and hostile both in tone and his refusal to meet the eyes of his opponent or moderator for the full 90 minutes. To “John Locke” up there - it’s entirely too common to blame your enemies for something you are guilty of. Obama won this one.
Comment by Andrew - September 27, 2008 at 5:04 am
Anon @ 4:58am.
Thank you for responding to my posts. True, I do not know how this coding behind this works. What I do know is that I (or anyone) can vote repeatedly and have each subsequent vote count… if she/he/it chose to do so.
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The danger in that glaring flaw, is if you read above posts.. where people use “general consensus” from the above poll to determine their own opinions.
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Thanks Anon for responding.
Comment by The WSJ doesn't know how to set up internet polls - September 27, 2008 at 5:08 am
Obama won. McCain is a terrifying person that seems dark and negative. Reminds me of Dr. Evil or Dick Chaney.
Comment by julie - September 27, 2008 at 5:08 am
address the Andrew comment. it has always amazed me what people will see and hear when prior to the actual event they have their mind made up….both politicans have flip flop during the running for president. they have to try and get all the vote or the most so they will say what it takes to get them (votes)…. but prior to the run Obama most of the time voted PRESENT. non commital…. He is just blowing his wind until election and then the proof will be in the pudding , and GOd help us if he (barak) gets in

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Wall Street Journal reader comments on debate are just great! There's hope.